There might just be a new flavor of Secret Paladin ready to take the ladder by storm. Vlps got top 25 legend with it recently, and streamed it here. It does contain duplicates, but with Mysterious Challenger in the list it becomes much easier to pull them out of the deck. This is a relatively new build and it remains to be seen if Paladin has another top tier deck list on the ladder.
Vlps’ Season 22 Reno Secret Paladin
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My winrate against Control decks is very favorable with regular Secret Paladin, but I switch to this and I have a better winrate overall, but much poorer against Control (especially Priest with double Entomb). Does anyone have some good suggestions for playing against Control decks, mainly priest? I feel like I just might be approaching the match-up incorrectly now that I’m playing a more slowed down deck.
Suprised to find this, and a little disappointed it’s out there, lol, as I thought I had an original idea for once. I have this exact deck, except Kel’Thuzad instead of Loatheb.
I like evident’s ideas of Ragnaros or SunWalker. Maybe IceHowl too since we already have a silencer in the deck.
Do I not understand how Reno works? How can you run multiple copies of cards in this deck and heal with Reno?
If you draw the duplicate card then there’s only one left in the deck so Reno will still work.
Well mulligan will differ from matchup to matchup, but you generally keep Avenge and Noble Sacrifice, and there are many times when you will also keep Mysterious Challenger esp. with the coin. But if you think about it this way: you can drop Reno anytime after MC has been played because at that point you have no duplicates anymore.
You NEVER keep a secret… the entire point of this deck (which you do point out) is that Mysterious Challenger pulls the duplicates. Reno is there for a surprise, you are not relying on him every game. So you should ALWAYS keep the MC (regardless of Coin) as he is what makes this deck win.
Never say never, man. I can’t tell you how many times keeping a secret in my opening hand has saved me. If it’s shaman or hunter, you’re almost guaranteed it’s aggro so that noble sacrifice helps. Plus, you almost always keep secrets if you get a Secretkeeper in opening hand.
I’ve been running this exact deck all season (but have subbed in various cards for Ooze) and have had great success! I was actually shocked to see a deck I put together get Legend for someone else. I think I need to play some more and get past rank 7 😉
Honestly I don’t understand why Reno isn’t more common in decks. Sometimes a few tweaks (swapping3-4 cards for a similar card) allows for you to have a card that practically resets a game (especially against Face Shaman).
Ended up putting Ooze back in. I feel like a fairly average player and I can easily hold rank 7 with this. I originally used this at the end of last season and the start of this and reached rank 7 easily. I then expirmented a bunch and fell to 10 and in 1 night of play got back to 7. Fun twist on Secret Paladin with the ability to fully heal. I’ve surprised the heck out of a few people who were convinced they were 1 turn from victory.
What are thoughts on Deathlord in this deck?
I got rekt by a Secret Paladin yesterday that dropped Deathlord T3 and it was absolutely the game for me (mirror match). I can’t find the deck anywhere, but I’m wondering if it wasn’t a variation of this deck.
I don’t know what you would drop for it. Second MC to avoid duplicates, or possibly Argent Protector or Owl (as both seem like tech choices)?
Well after playing maybe 15 games with this deck, I can probably answer my own question.
Deathlord can stop early aggro, but ultimately you want the Argent Protector. Second MC is also crucial I think, because sometimes the only way you can play Reno is if you play MC first (because not only does it take care of the MC duplicate, it takes care of Avenge and Noble Sacrifice duplicates as well).
I have not tried Deathlord in place of Ironbeak Owl but this may not be a bad move because I rarely need silence except to get past a taunt. Ironbeak sometimes feels like a dead card in your hand.
Conversely, an unfavorable drop from Deathlord can straight up lose you the game because this deck has very little to deal with an 8hp minion with taunt.
I tried the Deathlord Swap for Oooze & for Owl. Had some success, lots of failures. Overall I lost rank with it in there. However in a Non-Reno deck it has merit because you have more options to buff it’s health or provide divine shield.
Lol i got the same idea i even post the deck here in my account in happy to see that a pro thought the same way 🙂 yei.
Sorry for my lenguage im from argentina so yo hablo español
In what sense is this better than regular Secret Paladin? I really dont see the benefit of Reno in this Deck, since you’r “the Beatdown” anyway
Is the second Mysterious Challenger only in there to increase the draw chances? The only other advantage would be as an expensive Mad Scientist, so is it really worth it to run 2?
hey man. one reason is to increase the draw chances. but a 6/6 for 6 mana is actually not to bad to play. so i’d say it’s worth it. my experience with this deck is that your ways to lose are most of the time a non drawn reno or challenger
Many times you have to play MC or you will die. It’s best to keep two.
Sub for tirion?
Ragnaros as a finisher, or Sunwalker for the taunt/divine shield.