Spiteful Priest Mulligan Strategy & Guide
VS Fast Decks
Higher Priority (Keep every time)
- Northshire Cleric – The only 1-drop in the deck, 1/3 stats means that you can trade into some early 1/1’s or 2/1’s + it might stop your opponent from developing if he will be afraid of you drawing cards.
- Faerie Dragon – Not amazing, but it’s still a 3/2 for 2 + your opponent won’t be able to remove it with spells, which can be quite annoying in some matchups.
- Duskbreaker – Against aggro, this card is the backbone of your deck. Duskbreaker clears most early boards and leaves behind a minion with pretty decent stats. It is often a good plan to keep another Dragon (or Netherspite Historian) in your hand if you’re keeping Duskbreaker, just to ensure that you can play it to clear the board.
- Tar Creeper – With great stats for the cost, Tar Creeper is an excellent early game taunt. This early in the game your opponent might not have a way to silence or otherwise remove it, forcing them to trade their early board into it.
Lower Priority (Keep only if certain conditions are met)
- Shadow Ascendant – With Northshire Cleric. It’s too slow by itself, but if you can follow-up Cleric with it, your chance to win the game goes up by a mile.
- Scaleworm – Rush is great, especially if Aggro deck puts up a Tar Creeper in your way to protect the rest of his board. However, keeping it by itself is too slow – keep it only if you have some of your early drops already.
- Spiteful Summoner – Keeping a 6 mana card might be too slow against Aggro, but it’s still good if you have some of your early game or a board clear already, like Cleric or Duskbreaker. If you don’t, then hard mulligan for those.
VS Slow Decks
Higher Priority (Keep every time)
- Northshire Cleric – Card draw is important. It lets you cycle through your deck faster, meaning that you have a higher chance to drop Spiteful on the curve. It also makes things slightly awkward for your opponent – you might force him to use a removal on a 1/3 in the mid game, where he would prefer to develop something instead.
- Shadow Ascendant – Since there is a lower chance that your opponent will have some board on Turn 1/2, this minion might survive – and if it survives, it snowballs the rest of your board like crazy.
- Curious Glimmerroot – Good Turn 3 play, can put some pressure on your opponent + you don’t lose a card advantage if you pick the right card.
- Spiteful Summoner – Against slower opponents you can be fairly confident you’ll survive until turn 6, and on turn 6 you really want to be playing Spiteful Summoner. The strength of this card comes from making enormous minions several turns earlier than they should be played, and keeping it in your opening hand is the best way to ensure you can play it on curve.
Lower Priority (Keep only if certain conditions are met)
- Twilight Acolyte – Keep in the matchups that might drop a huge minion early – mostly against Cube Warlock, where this card is the Giants’ destroyer.
- Spellbreaker – Keep in the matchups in which Silence is important, e.g. once against against Cube Warlock, where silencing Possessed Lackey can win you the game.
- Twilight Drake – Twilight Drake is mostly played in this deck for lack of a better option, but it does have its upsides. Four attack is difficult for most Priest decks to remove, so against other Priest decks, Twilight Drake is often your strongest minion.
Spiteful Priest Win Rates
Winrate stats are currently unavailable for this deck at the moment!
Spiteful Priest Play Strategy
Vs Aggro
Games vs Aggro tend to be very quick and explosive. Since you run literally no board clears outside of the Duskbreaker, falling behind usually means losing the game (unless you draw your Duskbreaker, of course). You try to stay on the curve and keep trading your opponent’s board. Try to do as many efficient trades as possible – it’s unlikely that you will win the board in the early game, but you can at least reduce the pressure.
Try to use minions over Hero Power as much as possible – play for the tempo. A common misplay when playing this deck is healing a Northshire Cleric on Turn 2 to draw a card instead of dropping a 2-drop, especially Shadow Ascendant. That card is pointless if you will fall behind on the board and lose early. Playing a 2-drop, then 3-drop etc. means that you might be able to keep up with them and your minions are much more efficient when you’re the one dictating trades.
Since you only run 2x Duskbreaker, you need to be a little bit greedy with them. Try to not drop them vs e.g. a board with two 1-drops, unless you’re at a really low life total and you absolutely need to clear them. Another way to immediately impact the board is Scaleworm, which is also a solid card against Aggro – you can run it into something to clear it immediately, and then it will still live, meaning that it’s usually 2 for 1 – good value and good tempo.
Try to drop Spiteful Summoner as soon as possible. The main strength of this card in slow matchups is that it gives you two relatively big bodies to trade with – even if you low roll some mediocre 8-drop it still means that you can clear two minions per turn, which is important if you want to stabilize.
Cabal Shadow Priest tends to be good in the Aggro matchups, at least those who aren’t all-in face decks like Odd Face Hunter. You can steal most of their 1-drops and 2-drops, some of which even have Taunt. E.g. stealing a Righteous Protector vs Odd Paladin or Vulgar Homunculus against Zoo Warlock. But don’t really be picky about it – even stealing a 1/1 on the curve is better than keeping it if you have no other good plays anyway. Every card that can clear a small minion right away is good.
Surprisingly enough, Grand Archivist is also an amazing card against Aggro if you survive that long. The card starts out slowly, but gives you up to 4 turns of powerful plays – even Mind Controlling a small minion is great if you don’t have to actually pay mana for that.
While not exactly Aggro, if you face another Spiteful deck, keep Twilight Acolyte for the minion they summon from Spiteful. Otherwise, if they summon a 12/12 or something, you have literally no way to deal with it (at least until Grand Archivist turn).
Vs Control
When facing Control decks, your game plan switches to all-in offense in most of the matches. There is no reason to play defensive, as a slow deck won’t put pressure on your anyway. You want to start putting pressure ever since the first turns, but not by completely dropping the value. For example, drawing cards from Cleric is still great. One of the best way for Control deck to win against you is run you out of resources, so try to save some of them.
Generally, in the early game you can go all-in on the board. One of the ways to win with this deck is actually through the early game aggression, something opponents rarely mulligan for when facing Priest. Shadow Ascendant is the early game MVP – if they have no way to clear it, it can snowball the game in your favor. Try to deal as much face damage as possible, and overextending a bit onto the board is not bad if you have the mid game refill.
As much as your early game are still quite easy to take down by AoEs and removals, your Turn 4+ plays might not be. Twilight Drake (or Scaleworm if you have something to clear), Cobalt Scalebane and Spiteful Summoner is like a dream curve. Remember that you’re playing the beatdown role, so leave trading for your opponent, as long as you can get away with it. Trading up is okay to protect your bigger minions, but do not trade that 5/5 into let’s say some 2/3. Every point of damage is important.
In the mid game, try to not overextend, because that’s when the big AoE removals come into action. You always want to have some sort of board refill. So if you have one Spiteful Summoner and a big guy on the board already, don’t play another one into e.g. Twisting Nether. Instead, play for example a Curious Glimmerroot – you will still have an extra 3/3 body on the board, but getting AoE’d won’t hurt that much, because you’ve got a card from it already anyway.
One thing to keep in mind is that Grand Archivist will never cast a spell that doesn’t have a target. So if you play it on an empty board, it will always cast a Free From Amber – you don’t have to worry about burning Mind Control for no reason. At the same time, the minion is most effective when your opponent has a single, bigger minion on the board (e.g. Control Warlock with Voidlord). Him casting Mind Control to steal it is a massive swing, which often leads to a quick victory.
Twilight Acolyte works very well if you need to neutralize a big threat, such as an early Mountain Giant from the Warlock. But there’s nothing wrong about using it on e.g. 3 or 4 Attack minion to just keep the pressure and prevent that minion from killing one of your own. Later into the game, you can combo Twilight Acolyte with Cabal Shadow Priest to steal any minion from your opponent. It’s like a higher tempo Mind Control, but costs 2 cards. It’s AMAZING way to deal with your opponent’s late game minions. They will often try to drop it on Turn 9, before you can Mind Control it, and you can punish them this way. Voidlord is one of the best minions to steal with that combo – not only you get a great Taunt with Deathrattle + more minions on the board, but you remove it from your opponent’s Bloodreaver Gul'dan‘s pool of Demons.
Spiteful Priest Card Substitutions
The deck is actually pretty cheap – this specific version doesn’t run any Legendaries, but it does run quite a lot of Epics. Most of them are necessary and irreplaceable, but some of them can be substituted by something else. Check out the whole list below.
- Curious Glimmerroot – 3/3 for 3 that gives you an extra card is pretty solid. It’s an okay play both in terms of tempo and in terms of value. But if you don’t have it, replacing it isn’t terribly hard. You can play Nightmare Amalgam instead, and if you don’t have it either, you can try out an Acidic Swamp Ooze + either Squashling or Stonehill Defender. You can actually replace one with Acidic Swamp Ooze even if you don’t need a budget replacement – it’s a solid tech card to have.
- Twilight Acolyte – It’s the only card that somehow resembles a big removal you can use before Turn 10 (Mind Control) – without it, cards like Edwin VanCleef or Mountain Giant might beat you really hard. However, if you don’t have it, try the replacements listed above.
- Cabal Shadow Priest – Not necessary, it’s just solid in the current meta + it has a great late game combo with Twilight Acolyte vs slow decks in the slow matchups. If you don’t have it, you can run Wyrmguard instead.
- Spiteful Summoner – It’s the reason why you build a deck this way in the first place, you can’t replace it with any card.
- Grand Archivist – One copy is also absolutely necessary. It lets you cast all of those expensive spells for free, as soon as Turn 8. Provides game-winning swings in lots of matchups.
This used to be a good deck but not anymore I’m afraid, especially if you don’t draw SS early enough. Easily killed by Druid due to 10-cost cards not having any 6-6 and 5-7 minions anymore.
It has a suprise factor against your opponents cause most people will mulligan like against Control Priest. Really strong and fun to play deck. You have board presence, board clears and summoner just destroys your enemy with dragons on the board.
BAD deck !!!
very very mess deck, it is not an aggressive deck (super weak early game), nor midrange (don’t have control tool like spell or weapon), or control ( only 2 aoe clear, and weak taunt minions, can’t survive to late game) .
Its actually very good with a great early game with shadow ascendant and northshire cleric, Midrange, you mostly depend on getting spiteful summoner, if you dont, even your dragons can spiral out of control thanks to shadow ascendant and cobalt scalebane, and for control, you can sub in primoridial drakes and maybe a death knight
This deck is a very solid start. after a break from the game i picked it 2 weeks ago and went straight to 10 with this. Eventually ended up replacing both glimmeroots by a stonehill defender and a primordial drake, both to bolster my dragon power
HOLY
thx for this deck, I can still win with my trash RNG such as having both mind controls in hand
finally climbing
ok winning without spiteful summoner two games in a row
its broken
Ugh My draw is so bad how do I even win those meta decks running rampant.
also having mind control in my starting hand is so fun
Ugh My draw is so bad how do I even win those meta decks running rampant.
also having mind control in my starting hand is so fun
Ugh and the bad RNG
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Spiteful Priest Mulligan Strategy & Guide
VS FAST DECKS
Duskbringer: you still mention (or Netherspite Historian) which has rotated out.
I’m currently running a Keleseth/Lady in White variant of this deck with some success. Does anyone have any thoughts or experience on possibly running a copy of Void Ripper? I feel like the surprise burst from the big taunts or even turning Ultrasaur into a 14 power could swing some
I’m running the same variant. Haven’t tried void ripper but it’s effect seems a little too situational, and sometimes detrimental to your games, since you normally can’t go wide in board and want every minion to survive as long as possible. I can’t beat Paladin or Druid on the number of minons on the board and have only 2 duskbreakers for aoe damage, so can’t see value in lowering the health of my minions. Also void ripper becomes useless after you play Lady in White. I would ratter use some tech like glutonous ooze for weapon removal.
Is keleseth worth crafting for this deck?
If you’re in a lot of control matchups, then sure. Against aggro though, keep the two-drops.
What do you think about using Lady in White with some version of this deck? As a buff for tar creeper, stonehill defender, primordial drake and even perhaps Ysera.
I’m running her as a sort of secondary/tertiary wincon. You have to take out the Twilight Drakes though. Replace 1 with her and 1 with either Keleseth or a Stonehill Defenders and you’re golden.
What would be a good replacement for Cabal Shadow Priest and Scaleworm?
This is the most overrated Deck in HS History
Saltman
Bad deck is bad. Losses to anything that has the ability to attack. In rank 5 and lost 4 games in a row (Hunter, Warrior, Mage, Shaman). Would recommend a better meta deck like odd pally, shaman otk or cubelock.
Past rank 5 it pretty much loses it’s viability, but climbing to rank 5 has been easy with it, or atleast for me.
What can I replace Curious Glimerroots with?
Yeah, as the meta is new, I have missed several Glimmer’s and wanting to temporarily replace them until I know what is in each deck. I would try to throw in some tech’s like perhaps Gluttonous Ooze/Harrison Jones and Cabal Shadow Priest. Stoneskin Basilisk isn’t bad, or Bone Drake for the Dragon Synergy. Interested to hear what the author thinks about these suggestions. Even a random Fungalmancer isn’t too bad… Lots of tech options to replace the Glimmer for now.
I’m a bit tight on dust, so I replaced it with Nightscale Matriarch. It doesn’t do bad, but often it feels like a dead card (though it does help with dragon synergy), because I don’t think that using 9 mana for a 7/12 is that good. For now it’s working well but I think I may replace it with something else later, if not Glimerroot. Thanks for the suggestions!
Actually, after playing some more games, Nightscale Matriarch is pretty great in slower matchups like Mage, Priest, Warlock, etc. so I guess I’m keeping her.
What can I replace Chameleos with?
dont play cameleon it sucks
to be really honest, if you don’t know what Chameleos is for, then you are better off not using it. Otherwise I’m thinking the closest priest has to chameleos would be crystalline oracle. Semi decent value.
How is this deck after witchwood? I really want to get into priest as my favorite Wow class, but I don’t spend money and have a limited amount of dust from scrapping my would cards.
This deck is so broken now, i got 85 % win rate from rank 13 to rank 9 and i made it in just few hours…a little problem can be baku hunter but against all other decks no problem at all, i have 100 % wintrate against paladin and shaman, only lost against cube warlock 1 game and against baku hunter 2 games
I play my own version of this and it´s insane 🙂 Only hunters made problems sometimes…still killer 🙂
This deck is slow but good. I have 100% win rate so far. Spiteful Summoner on Discover from Amber or Mind Control puts something very useful late game most of the time.
what cards should i ad next set
Great deck. Went from rank 9 to 5 with 12W-1. I replaced 2 twilight acolytes with spellbreakers and add dragonfire potion instead of songstealer.
As a budget (newbie) player I’ve found that I can replace the Historian with Secretkeeper with this deck build and I also dropped the Twilight Drakes for a Bone Mare and a 2nd Kabal Songstealer. I call this a spiteful confusion summoner. It seems to be more affective for early draws while giving the impression that I’m playing a secret priest deck which draws early attacks away from my hero.
You must be rank 20 because everyone knows that priest has no secrets.
Astounding!
Yes, but this is a secret heavy meta. Mage, hunter, paladin and even Rogue are all playing secrets.
Playing a secret keeper early can stall these opponents. Doesn’t really help for cubelock tho. 🙂
LOL RETARD!
Nice copypasta!
If you draw all the big spells before you get summoner (like i do most of the time) this deck is sh it
I disagree, you just have to adapt to a more control style until ~8-10 mana. Played against control lock and drew 2 MCD, just made sure he didn’t get his Void Terrors out to early then stole both of them.
I’m wondering what the replacements for Drakinoid Operative, Kabal Songstealer, and Kabal Talonpriest are going to be when they move them to Wild. I dusted 2200 worth of cards for this deck, and after 16ish games my winrate is about 75% or higher in low ranks (although maybe that’s normal, because a lot of players in Standard Ranked don’t have competitive decks at all). I’m already substituting Netherspite Historian with Faerie Dragon, which has worked out fine IMO, but the removal of the other three cards will be quite big though. There’s still more than ten months until they’re moved, but I suppose I should save up my gold to buy a lot of packs when I need to get more substitutes. I want to get my Priest to golden so this shouldn’t be an issue, unless Blizzard doesn’t release any replacements. Thanks for posting this deck it’s very fun. 🙂
These key cards rotate out in 4 weeks, the deck is gonna be heavily underpowered as the dragon synergy will be lost
Maybe it will be then good wild deck…
Faerie dragon works as a substitute but I feel like Novice Engineer fills the spot of Netherspite Historian better.
# 2x (1) Northshire Cleric
# 1x (2) Acidic Swamp Ooze
# 2x (2) Faerie Dragon
# 1x (2) Shadow Ascendant
# 2x (3) Kabal Talonpriest
# 2x (3) Tar Creeper
# 1x (4) Duskbreaker
# 1x (4) Lightspawn
# 1x (4) Spellbreaker
# 1x (4) Twilight Drake
# 2x (5) Cobalt Scalebane
# 2x (5) Drakonid Operative
# 1x (5) Kabal Songstealer
# 1x (6) Bone Drake
# 2x (6) Spiteful Summoner
# 1x (7) Lesser Diamond Spellstone
# 1x (8) Free From Amber
# 1x (8) Grand Archivist
# 1x (9) Alexstrasza
# 2x (9) Sleepy Dragon
# 2x (10) Mind Control
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I climbed quite a lot with this today!
I’m missing some cards, so I had to wing it a little. Climbed from rank 17 to 10 in a few hours. Now I’m kind of stuck again, and you feel the missing cards, and think oh how nice if I had card x now 😀 I’m seriously thinking about dusting cards from other classes to craft some of the missing cards, should I?
I wouldn’t go crazy with dusting. We are well over halfway done with this expansion and next one is the big rotation.
How can spiteful priest have a Winrate against spiteful priest of 42% lol.
Having Harrison has to hurt in the mirror but yea that’s weird.
Maybe cause it looses against a different version of spiteful priest but IDK
Spiteful Priest was mislabeled as Dragon Priest is this guide and it looked at the win rates for Dragon Priest instead. Sorry, it should be alright now.
Thanks, great deck and quite cheap. Currently on rank 12, highest i’ve got to before was 15. Usually play shaman so really struggling with lack of early play, sometimes it can get too out of hand before turn 6 – i’ve replaced glimmerroots with 2x Keepers of secrets as a lot of the decks I play against are either secrets mage or hunter. Sometimes murloc paladin has some too.
While I get the inclusion of the water I would only use one and I wouldn’t be removing glimmeroot as he is one of priests strongest cards. I’d probably take out a drake or an acolyte, but that’s just me. And as for the early game, always try to Mulligan for your low cost cards and try keep a duskbreaker vs aggro decks as this card will single-handedly win you those matches
Replace 1x Twilight Drake and Harrison Jones with 2x Cabal Shadow Priest to enable the steal combo with Twilight Acolyte, that won me a lot of matches, made some players summon nothing with Bloodreaver Gul’dan several times.
-1 Harrison Jones, +1 acid swamp ooze because you want to control your draws and have a stronger turn 2 play in case your nether-sprite cant activate
-1 twilight drake, +1 spell breaker, good for silencing aggro shields and buffs + warlock lackeys, void lord
-1 curious glimmer root, +1 cabal shadow priest to counter aggro decks and synthesize with twilight acolyte to steal things – especially void lords.
synergize*
also swamp ooze cost less so you can destroy aggro weapon much earlier.
Debating on removing the 2nd curious glimmer root for another cabal shadow priest or spell breaker.
Does anyone feel like subbing the Glimmerroot’s for 2 Spellbreaker’s is viable? I’ve been doing this to counter Cubelock and I’ve found it’s been winning me a few games I maybe shouldn’t have.
Thoughts?
I kind of feel like archivist is old meta and doesn’t address what is going on in this meta’s late game. I like cutting the archivist and ambers for a scream and 2 shadow priests.
Nevermind, there are better ways to sneak shadow priests in.
i run this without the Shadow Ascendant or Curious Glimmerroot cards and run stonehill defender and kabal songstealer cards instead.
Any ideas on replacing netherspite historian?
Prince Keleseth would be the best, you could also go with Faerie Dragon. If you put in Keleseth you have to take out shadow ascendant.
Any replacement for twilight acolytes?
Substitute for harrison?
You can use Corrosive Sludge, it’s a solid 5/5 body and has a similar effect.
Any of the ooze cards that destroy weapons id say. You wont get the card draw effect though.
Acidic Swamp Ooze and Gluttonous Ooze are the other good weapon removal cards, either would be fine. You could also add Kabal Songstealer.
It looks pretty nice. Will you recommend it over Cube Warlock? Just have have dust to craft some missing core cards for this or Cube Warlock and I can’t decide 🙁
I’m partial to Cube Lock.
What do you think about including stonehill defenders x2 instead of historians (don’t have the adventure). They would provide the deck with another 3rd turn play that has taunt and okey stats against agroo , but most importantly provides you with another taunt
No. Historians are essential to discover dragons that will later serve as actvators for your other dragons. Also, discovering an early duskbreaker will win you games
True, Duskbreaker can be your savior, and another Operative is never bad as well.
That’s the only reason I’m happy they’re not doing Adventures anymore, so annoying for F2P players to complete decks if they don’t have them. Do you have Keleseth? Unless you play Wild I wouldn’t recommend getting the Adventure this close to rotation, and Keleseth would be fine until then.
This is a little off topic, but as as mainly a free to play player, I loved adventures. It’s only 700 coins per stage, and you can collect the compete set. We usually knew before hand when new expansions/adventures were coming out and you can save up for it. In regular expansions, no way I can get all epics and legendaries as free to play.
That is off topic, but I mostly agree.
Nice write-up,
I’ve been playing this deck all through January and am now experimenting with substitution for the upcoming nerfs.
On another note though: Twilight Drake feels super underwhelming and with the amount of silnce that i currently run by everybody it mostly removed way too efficently. I’ve played a couple of games with Hoarding Dragon as a sub. So far it has been ok. What are the mai reasons, that this card never comes up in the discussion?
Thanks! Giving your opponent two mana can be pretty devastating, or in some cases even two cards. Now that Raza has been nerfed it’s probably more playable than it was, but I’d still get excited if someone played it against me.
Yeah! for example, lowing Giants cost for warlock, or Arcanes in Druid, give Rogue in general more options, set OTK paladin, In fact u give me the idea to use that card on a mill rogue, maybe works better.
I wasn’t aware of any nerfs to Creeper and Bonemare. I don’t see any difference in my game. Have the nerfs gone live yet?
Creeper is becoming a 2/5 with the same cost and effect, and Bonemare is jsut increasing to 8 mana.
Not yet, soon
I don’t have Netherspite Historian nore will i be able to get it anytime soon. Is that a huge deal?
Did you try reading the guide?
I’m currently playing this deck and i LOVE it, but i have a question: should i replace Corridor Creeper with Twilight Acolyte once Corridor Creeper gets nerfed?
Yea
Is doomsayer a viable substitute for any of the cards in this deck? I keep getting destroyed by face hunters and tempo rogues because i don’t draw my duskbreakers in time 🙁
You could try it, but it’s probably a dead card after turn 2. I’d probably go Golakka Crawler before Doomsayer.
What do you think of one Book Wyrm? I put it in because I was missing one curious glimmer root. I’ve had pretty good success with it to combat the agro pirate decks. It also does fairly well against priest removing lyra and combos well with turn 7 bonemare.
Doesn’t sound bad, if it’s working out well you should definitely keep it in!
Why not curator? Too many 7 drops?
That’s an interesting idea. Since Corridor Creeper isn’t really a 7-drop the deck could probably tolerate it. It might be good, but maybe playing a 4/6 on 7 is slow for what this deck is trying to do at that stage of the game.
Would medivh be good in this deck and could zola the gorgon be any good to get another spitfull summoner?
Medivh might be okay, but this deck doesn’t want to actually play it’s spells. It also has a very small draw engine, so I imagine Atiesh would be sitting on the field not getting value a lot of the time. Who knows though, it might help in some of the grindier matchups. Zola might be cool (it could also grab you more Duskbreakers), but this deck already has a lot of value and Zola would hurt your tempo if drawn too early.
If this was Reddit I would upvote
I run it, works great VS iceblock.
I have really good stats against Warlock (16-5) but i struggle against Highlander Priest… any tips how i should play against them?
It’s hard because this deck doesn’t have a very strong turn 1 and 2. You have to be really aggressive, and if Highlander plays Raza and Anduin on curve they’re probably going to win. Just try to rush them down.
Thx mate!
i took out the shadow ascendants and put in dirty rats to try a pull raza.
It was good to climb til level 10, but after that… impossible to win against Warlocks with Void/Guldan DK/The legend that revives the deathrattles OR against the Priests that have Shadowreaper/Raza… and i ONLY encounter those 2. Every time. No exception.
Those two decks are far and away the best two in the meta, everything struggles against them.
Ironically, Cube Warlock is Tier 2. I don’t get why, I main Cube Warlock and I know just how good it is.
It should be Tier 1.
Who says it’s tier 2? Some stat site? Cube lock is both complicated and popular so it could be that it’s just not being played well across most ranks.
You’ve got a point there. This site also ranks it at Tier 2.
Cubelock is Tier 2 because it is so popular it runs into a lot of mirror matchups. Each mirror generates one win one loss so it lowers the high winrate.
I don’t really want to include Shadow Ascendant, but still want to keep Netherspite Historian in the deck. Any good substitutes for Shadow Ascendant other than Faerie Dragon? I really only have two empty slots for this deck and I haven’t even added Spellbreaker.
That’s been Priest’s problem since the game began, never having any good 2-cost minions. It got its first REALLY good one with Radiant Elemental, but for this deck that might as well be River Croc. You could try out Mana Geode but that seems bad to me. There’s also Acidic Swamp Ooze (for Mage and Warlock surprisingly) and Golakka Crawler.
Good point. Acidic Ooze could work..it would also mess up Aggro Paladin just a bit..and 3 2-cost aren’t bad, so I could just put 1 Acidic Ooze and one Spellbreaker. I guess that’s as good as it goes.
FYI Mana Geode has the potential for ridiculous value but it would be tough to find it a home in this deck
I removed a 1x shadow asc and the 2x glimmer for 1x doomsayer 1x mindcontrol tech 1x skulking geist. Doom sayer helps against aggro, mct is very useful both against aggro (pally) and cubelock and geist is very good vs razakus, jade druid warlock and many others. With this changes my winrate went up nicely
Interesting choices. I’ll test them out. You do have me sold on Doomsayer and Geist.
There’s a lot of aggro out there and you will consistently lose to it. If you fail to draw Duskbreaker or lack another dragon to activate its Battlecry, I’m afraid it’s over. However, versus control? It’s great.
Yep, this is especially the case against Paladin. Getting a good draw is the only way I can beat them. Netherspite is a really good card though as it usually gives me Duskbreaker more often than not.
Cant seem to win with this deck. Aggro pally crushes me, the priest deck that revives everything beats me, mirror matches bea…oh wait I just suck.
Any suitable card, other than legendary to switch for Netherspite Historian?
Faerie Dragon is ok but it won’t be as good.
Alright thanks, I will give it a try.
Version with pirates and keleseth is more sharp, dynamic. You can take control over the early game through pirates and snowball instead of begging for businesses vs aggressive decks
Autocorrect. I meant duskbreaker
You have that backwards. Cutting all your early game doesn’t make your early game stronger. Eventually drawing keleseth makes your end game stronger.
Could you show me the Keleseth version of this deck?
Is it bad idea to put one dragonfire potion into this deck instead of one glimmeroot?
Only because the cost is lower than the deck wants, it will compromise your spiteful summoner. If you want an aoe I’d try psychic scream
-1 Tar Creeper +1 spellbreaker not considering songstealer as there is too many 5 drops
If considering 2nd spellbreaker probably -1 free from amber
Those seem like decent cuts. Yeah I think songstealer is a step too far, but having Spellbreakers is good
Why dropping the star creeper? I was thinking I’d drop a glimmerroot or talon priest instead
Simply because Tar Creeper loses its value later in the game it becomes a bad card which doesn’t even trade 1 for 1.
Glimmer Roots = value, talon priest lets u make value trade as well
I’m not sure the deck needs silence. Mind control works great already on the high priority silence targets being played right now (voidlord, valanyr, etc)
Spellbreaker is a staple for me since last expansion and i never regret having it. In fact won me a lot of games. Mind control u have to wait til turn 8 with archivist if u run 2 free from amber and u have 1 mind control in hand u only have 33% chance to cast mind control else u wait til turn 10 to spend your whole turn which you dont want that in best senario, u want to keep playing minions not spells. Cutting 1 free from amber even u have 1 mind control in hand turn 8 archivist becomes a 50% mind control.
There’s no rush though. This deck can easily hang with almost anything into the mid teen turns and save a mind control for the perfect target.
Even if you whiff on a voidlord or whatever turn 8 with archivist hitting amber and them being able to kill it off before archivist goes off again you just shrug it off and try to grab a couple of the next 3.
Nice writeup. I like cutting the glimmerroots for mistress of mixtures to help with agro. The deck has plenty of gas if you can get there and even outvalues most locks. Plus glimmerroot has pretty terrible win% stats in the deck.
That’s a cool idea, the deck is definitely starving for 1 drops
90%/100% i draw cleric
Luvv the priest cancer rng