I would agree with Illuriel. Unless this is a fatigue deck we talk about here, I couldn’t see how a trivial life&armor boost can significantly promote victory chance.
If I really want to exploit the benefits of Barnes for demon warlock, I would get rid off those battle-cry minions and kick off tar creep, only keep more critical minions such as void Lord and Spiritsinger Umbra and need 1 more Siphon Soul. First Discipline. I highly recommend add You probably don’t want to display a 1/1 ooze/N’zoth to your opponent and make your deck look like a joke.
Because the deck has a lot of great Barnes targets.
There are 16 minions in the deck in total and only four of them are “vanilla”, without any effects when you get them from Barnes – Kobold Librarians, Ooze and N’Zoth.
There are 2x Mistress of Mixtures and 2x Plated Beetle for extra healing, Rolling Tainted Zealot is like playing one – it’s a 1/1 anyway. Tar Creepers are 3/1 Taunts (on your opponent’s turn), and that’s only just beginning. Possessed Lackey can obviously summon a Voidlord, Rin is great roll in the slow matchups for the Deathrattle, and rolling Voidlord is amazing, as it Deathrattles into 3x 1/3 Taunts.
You have 75% chance to roll something with an effect and ~30% to roll something with an amazing effect. Maybe even higher given that you always want to mulligan for the Kobolds and they’re basically an auto-keep in every matchup.
If you considering 1/1 Gluttonous ooze, Tar Creeper, Kobold Librarian & N’Zoth are “Great Targets”. I suggest you to learn some basic game mechanics such as “Battle Cry”.
Apparently, this deck is heavily rely on First Discipline to destroy opponent’s deck. Thus if your opponent is capable to silence your minion, transfer it into another pet minion, or counter one of the seal spell, you are lost. Those extra healing/armor/taunt is useless when your deck lost victorie measure.
Big Minion Priest deck is very good example about how to maximum exploit the effect of Barnes. You only keep the critical minions in your deck to make sure Barnes will trigger the big minion with 100% probability.
Any small minion add into that deck would only weak the deck’s efficiency.
This deck is ridiculously strong. I don’t have Rin so I just added in Carnivorous Cube to trigger my Void Lords and it works very well. The board clears and the strong heals and just the overwhelming board presence makes for a solid deck. I have played probably just short of 20 games with a 100% win rate so far against Druids, Locks, Rogues and Shaman. I haven’t come across Priest yet so I’d say that may be my toughest class considering they can steal Void Lord and remove quite easily the lower strengthened minions. But until I cross that bridge im loving playing this style of Lock,
Also tried that and it wasn’t very good. The only matchup where you would need her is the mirror. And N’Zoth never survives a turn in mirror. If your opponent doesn’t have an answer to N’Zoth you won anyway. Zola is just a “win more” card. In other matchups you don’t need two N’Zoths
Plenty of Deathrattles, Zealot for Defile/Hellfire/Spellstone, Tar is a 3/1, at worst Librarian is a good 1 health for Defile. Makes your N’zoth and Guldan better, which can potentially be more threats than Stonehill.
Barnes is decent in this deck. It’s not great but not bad either. In this particular list there are only 3 bad outcomes – two Kobold Librarians and Ooze. Kobold is a card you keep in every matchup so overall it decreases the chance you’ll have it in your deck. Most of the time Barnes is at least “good”, sometimes he’s great.
About Stonehill Defenders – I play this deck a lot and honestly I also ended up cutting them. I felt they were underperforming a lot. Usually they just don’t meet the expectations at all.
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I would agree with Illuriel. Unless this is a fatigue deck we talk about here, I couldn’t see how a trivial life&armor boost can significantly promote victory chance.
If I really want to exploit the benefits of Barnes for demon warlock, I would get rid off those battle-cry minions and kick off tar creep, only keep more critical minions such as void Lord and Spiritsinger Umbra and need 1 more Siphon Soul. First Discipline. I highly recommend add You probably don’t want to display a 1/1 ooze/N’zoth to your opponent and make your deck look like a joke.
What do you guys think about replacing gluttonous ooze with prince Taldaram in this deck?
why is barnes there?
Because the deck has a lot of great Barnes targets.
There are 16 minions in the deck in total and only four of them are “vanilla”, without any effects when you get them from Barnes – Kobold Librarians, Ooze and N’Zoth.
There are 2x Mistress of Mixtures and 2x Plated Beetle for extra healing, Rolling Tainted Zealot is like playing one – it’s a 1/1 anyway. Tar Creepers are 3/1 Taunts (on your opponent’s turn), and that’s only just beginning. Possessed Lackey can obviously summon a Voidlord, Rin is great roll in the slow matchups for the Deathrattle, and rolling Voidlord is amazing, as it Deathrattles into 3x 1/3 Taunts.
You have 75% chance to roll something with an effect and ~30% to roll something with an amazing effect. Maybe even higher given that you always want to mulligan for the Kobolds and they’re basically an auto-keep in every matchup.
If you considering 1/1 Gluttonous ooze, Tar Creeper, Kobold Librarian & N’Zoth are “Great Targets”. I suggest you to learn some basic game mechanics such as “Battle Cry”.
Apparently, this deck is heavily rely on First Discipline to destroy opponent’s deck. Thus if your opponent is capable to silence your minion, transfer it into another pet minion, or counter one of the seal spell, you are lost. Those extra healing/armor/taunt is useless when your deck lost victorie measure.
Big Minion Priest deck is very good example about how to maximum exploit the effect of Barnes. You only keep the critical minions in your deck to make sure Barnes will trigger the big minion with 100% probability.
Any small minion add into that deck would only weak the deck’s efficiency.
I think you blew an autistic gasket.
And you just desmonstrate that how little esteem you can reanch by using such rhetorics.
Spoken like a true legend.
This deck is ridiculously strong. I don’t have Rin so I just added in Carnivorous Cube to trigger my Void Lords and it works very well. The board clears and the strong heals and just the overwhelming board presence makes for a solid deck. I have played probably just short of 20 games with a 100% win rate so far against Druids, Locks, Rogues and Shaman. I haven’t come across Priest yet so I’d say that may be my toughest class considering they can steal Void Lord and remove quite easily the lower strengthened minions. But until I cross that bridge im loving playing this style of Lock,
Barnes has many useless targets that could let you sh*t all the game…turn 4 you could do much more…
Saw someone play this w Zola instead of Barnes. Double Nzoth is nice.
Also tried that and it wasn’t very good. The only matchup where you would need her is the mirror. And N’Zoth never survives a turn in mirror. If your opponent doesn’t have an answer to N’Zoth you won anyway. Zola is just a “win more” card. In other matchups you don’t need two N’Zoths
Barnes has no place in this deck, and having two discover taunters would be key as well if you want enough threats agaisnt priest
Plenty of Deathrattles, Zealot for Defile/Hellfire/Spellstone, Tar is a 3/1, at worst Librarian is a good 1 health for Defile. Makes your N’zoth and Guldan better, which can potentially be more threats than Stonehill.
Barnes is decent in this deck. It’s not great but not bad either. In this particular list there are only 3 bad outcomes – two Kobold Librarians and Ooze. Kobold is a card you keep in every matchup so overall it decreases the chance you’ll have it in your deck. Most of the time Barnes is at least “good”, sometimes he’s great.
About Stonehill Defenders – I play this deck a lot and honestly I also ended up cutting them. I felt they were underperforming a lot. Usually they just don’t meet the expectations at all.