People who are saying this deck is “really bad” are grossly exaggerating. If you are winning a zero or near-zero amount with this deck, then you are misplaying. It’s not an easy or intuitive deck to play. The deck is not great, but it’s not as bad as some of you think.
Some tips:
-vs Control/Slow decks, mulligan away anything that isn’t one of these cards: Sorcerer’s Apprentice, Simulacrum, Leyline Manipulator, Molten Reflection, Archmage Antonidas.
-vs Aggro decks mulligan away any combo pieces, except for Sorcerer’s Apprentice. You want to find as many freeze and armor effects as possible. Use Primordial Glyph to generate more freeze effects or removal.
-You can use Primordial Glyph to discover a copy of Molten Reflection or Simulacrum. If you combo this with Leyline Manipulator, you can make some tricky plays.
-Save Blizzard and Frost Nova for as long as possible. Doomsayer, Cone of Cold and Ice Barrier are usually more expendable and should be used to stall the early game. Try to wait until your opponent’s next attacks will be lethal before you start casting freeze effects. This is difficult to determine because you have to consider weapon damage, burn spells, and minions with charge.
-VS weapons, burn spells and hero powers, try to use Arcane Artificer and/or Ice Barrier in a way that you give you some armor when you have committed to freezing your opponent’s board every turn.
-It is often correct to play Bloodmage Thalnos on curve. It might be tempting to wait until you can take advantage of the spell damage, but it is often more valuable to draw the card and dig through your deck as fast as possible. Also, unlike Novice Engineer, your opponent is more likely to spend mana or damage to remove Thalnos. This slows down their assault on your hero’s health, and buys you more time to assemble your combo.
Im building this deck right now. i think thats a pretty good deck against those slow decks (evenlock, taunt druid etc.) but against aggro decks like baku rogue idk if it can win. u gotta have a great hand to draw plus stopping his board of killing. Anyway, i think its a good deck to prob hit rank 5 or smt. Might be better than this, who knows
You can win consistently with this deck if you are good enough. You just have to know when to conserve freeze effects and take face damage, and when to use your frost novas.
Keep in mind that you really need to keep frost nova as long as possible, and only combo it with other cards or if it’s the only freeze effect in your hand and you’re about to take a lot of face damage without armor.
Only use artificer if you know that it won’t die, or on a turn with big or multiple spells.
The ideal combo is stall for frost nova simulacrum simulcarum with sorc apprentice in hand and then artificer, simulacrum simulacrum nova and next turn you play leyline with another stall card to win.
Excellent list, reducing the Apprentice and the Manipulator to one copy is actually genius, I’m 5-0 at rank 2 with this, perfect counter to this slow meta.
Is there a decent replacement for Bloodmage Thalnos? Or do you think that he’s strong enough to save up for, cause at the moment I can’t see it being worth it to craft him
I think it’s simulacrum 2 apprentice. Then use leyline to make them free. Play them and antonidas and then use both molten reflections on apprentice, this costs 10 mana and gives you infinite fireballs
Only 1 molten reflection. Instead it’s like you said but 7 (tony), 0 x2 for the copies of apprentice, 2 for the original apprentice, 1 for the molten and that’s 10 man a plus infinite fire.
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People who are saying this deck is “really bad” are grossly exaggerating. If you are winning a zero or near-zero amount with this deck, then you are misplaying. It’s not an easy or intuitive deck to play. The deck is not great, but it’s not as bad as some of you think.
Some tips:
-vs Control/Slow decks, mulligan away anything that isn’t one of these cards: Sorcerer’s Apprentice, Simulacrum, Leyline Manipulator, Molten Reflection, Archmage Antonidas.
-vs Aggro decks mulligan away any combo pieces, except for Sorcerer’s Apprentice. You want to find as many freeze and armor effects as possible. Use Primordial Glyph to generate more freeze effects or removal.
-You can use Primordial Glyph to discover a copy of Molten Reflection or Simulacrum. If you combo this with Leyline Manipulator, you can make some tricky plays.
-Save Blizzard and Frost Nova for as long as possible. Doomsayer, Cone of Cold and Ice Barrier are usually more expendable and should be used to stall the early game. Try to wait until your opponent’s next attacks will be lethal before you start casting freeze effects. This is difficult to determine because you have to consider weapon damage, burn spells, and minions with charge.
-VS weapons, burn spells and hero powers, try to use Arcane Artificer and/or Ice Barrier in a way that you give you some armor when you have committed to freezing your opponent’s board every turn.
-It is often correct to play Bloodmage Thalnos on curve. It might be tempting to wait until you can take advantage of the spell damage, but it is often more valuable to draw the card and dig through your deck as fast as possible. Also, unlike Novice Engineer, your opponent is more likely to spend mana or damage to remove Thalnos. This slows down their assault on your hero’s health, and buys you more time to assemble your combo.
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Im building this deck right now. i think thats a pretty good deck against those slow decks (evenlock, taunt druid etc.) but against aggro decks like baku rogue idk if it can win. u gotta have a great hand to draw plus stopping his board of killing. Anyway, i think its a good deck to prob hit rank 5 or smt. Might be better than this, who knows
You can win consistently with this deck if you are good enough. You just have to know when to conserve freeze effects and take face damage, and when to use your frost novas.
Keep in mind that you really need to keep frost nova as long as possible, and only combo it with other cards or if it’s the only freeze effect in your hand and you’re about to take a lot of face damage without armor.
Only use artificer if you know that it won’t die, or on a turn with big or multiple spells.
The ideal combo is stall for frost nova simulacrum simulcarum with sorc apprentice in hand and then artificer, simulacrum simulacrum nova and next turn you play leyline with another stall card to win.
This deck is shit. Winning no game with. I was playing exodia since un’goro btw so the excuse “ur not enough good to play it with” is not working.
Excellent list, reducing the Apprentice and the Manipulator to one copy is actually genius, I’m 5-0 at rank 2 with this, perfect counter to this slow meta.
Could you please explain the diffrent combo/win conditions for this deck would appreciate it
Why is it genius?
really bad deck, loses to anything but big spell mage
AKA you’re just not good enough to play it.
This deck is strong in slower metas which we are experiencing post nerf.
Is there a decent replacement for Bloodmage Thalnos? Or do you think that he’s strong enough to save up for, cause at the moment I can’t see it being worth it to craft him
U could prolly replace Thalnos with Polymorph. That being said why not craft Thalnos, cards been good since the game came out.
“#40 Legend” clearly means the decks bad and not ur own play right?
Infinite fireballs with antonidas
How you win with this deck? 🙂
I think it’s simulacrum 2 apprentice. Then use leyline to make them free. Play them and antonidas and then use both molten reflections on apprentice, this costs 10 mana and gives you infinite fireballs
Only 1 molten reflection. Instead it’s like you said but 7 (tony), 0 x2 for the copies of apprentice, 2 for the original apprentice, 1 for the molten and that’s 10 man a plus infinite fire.