mostly this deck will boost it with 2+2 then its game over already. Most rogues have this card and its game over every time.
They should ban this card !
That is just not true. You can look up the statistics online if you want. People over estimate the impact of this card way too much. The main reason why kelezeth have such a strong winrate is because people immediately concede instead of playing it out. Think about it, if you play kelezeth on turn 2 and by turn 6 you have drawn two minions and two spells you have gained essentially a 2/2 of stats over 4 rounds (+ plus the tempo loss of playing a 2 mana 2/2), that is not unbeatable by any means! Even with kelezeth + shadowstep you can still easily lose if you draw badly afterwards because you have expended most of your opening hand!
This deck is shit. Confirmed. 0-6 thus far. Replace Shaku with something useful. Southsea hardly works if you draw your patches. All around bad deck tbh, I would search somewhere else for a similar deck with replacements.
Don’t have Shaku or Xaril and don’t have the dust to craft ’em, so I tried replacing them with a second Shadowcaster and a Plague Doctor. Pretty decent, but the lack of draw really made the deck suffer. Now I’m running it with 2 Coldlight Seers and seeing a much higher win rate. Particularly against priests, against whom I would get reliably rekt before. Personally my favorite Keleseth deck, prefer it over Zoolock or the new Pirate Warrior by a long run.
I don’t know if my luck is bad or what but I have like a 10% winrate with this deck like wtf am i doing wrong I get the perfect trun one prince 2 into shadowstep into prince 2 and jsut repeatedly lose. dont know whats so great about this deck lol ive been to rank 5 using other aggro decks and this one is just not working at all so I dont know what the deal is
No the deck is not so good..i believe when come out,no one knows the deck and get some high wins.but now is predictable..And any deck can deal with this for fun.
If you don’t get Swashburgler or Southsea Deckhand in the first couple turns, turn 3 Captain is nice, especially if you get Keleseth before that. I’ve come out with some 4/4 Patches thru Shadowstepping Keleseth twice and it’s pretty tough to answer that early in the game.
Seriously, it’s not OP and the only good match ups are against Priest and Druid.
I’m 4rank and went from 5 undefeated against 4 for those.
I don’t count the 7-6rank cause most of the players just neckdeck it without knowing how to pilot it and ofc they got recked.
For my taste, miracle is more consistent and I think tempo/aggro will fall to tier2 next season.
I’m thinking to try this deck, but i haven’t patches, shadowcaster and xaril.
how can i replace this card?
i’m thinking to cobalt scalebane naga and plague scientist, but i’m not sure… what’s do u think abuot this?
ty all for the answer
This is mostly an aggro deck, and valeera, which helps you in a value game on turn 10- and is a turn 9 do nothing, does not really fit. The bonemare helps to just kill them before you even hit 9 mana. imo
this deck has an overall 58% winrate with no actual matchup coing under 50% winrate (52% the worse on priest to 64% the best on mage and paladin) so i don’t think this deck could be claimed garbage since many pros are playing this deck or some rly similar variants with a couple card changes. maybe you got tilted after a couple of bad luck games or simply you are not suited to play this kind of deck. it’s not a stupid aggro like pre nerf pirate warrior used to. rly need to play around removals and have the most efficient trades till you can rush the face for a fast win. i recommend trying it again in a good mood, don’t get salty to god draws on opponents since shit happens and you’ll start ranking up.
said that maybe Aggro is not your playstile and you are more suited to midrange, combo or control decks so it’s not the deck but you, still keeping to try this deck will eventually get you better at it and will grant you a level up on your whole game skill so again: keep trying.
or simply drop the deck, i was totally a sucker with pre nerf aggro token druid and it was tier 0, i had many tries on it but simply kept losing. it was not made for me, could be the same for you and this one xD
this can be fast:
play for tempo and try to be always the one questioning (so to place treats on the board in order to have the opponent to answer your board).
obviously everygame is different, a huge edwin pre turn 4 (3 w/ coin) is a enormous treat against mage, can be more easily answered by priest or hunter (turn 3 or 2 w/ coin) and is absolutely great on druid for example (naturalize exist but is kinda rare at the moment), on a shaman which has devolve as easy way to “silence” edwin it’s better to fight for board, you do that by playing on curve and having the best trades (like a smart aggro and not a SMOrc bonobo). turn 1 swashburglar(+ patches) plus turn 2(+coin) southsea captain buffing other pirates is a huge tempo swing that grants an hard pressure on the opponent, the dream play isn’t this tho. ghaving keleseth on turn 2 (1 w/ coin) is huge plus shadowstep is enormous plus second shadowstep is humungous and can straightly win games in a couple turns.
for what concerns mulligan i’d go for always keep a turn 1 play (hallucination doesn’t count), firefly is good but a pirate pulling patches is better (with swashburglar over southsea deckhand), you ALWAYS keep keleseth since it’s your only turn 2 curve play (except HP) and grants a massive buff winning games (i won’t repeat it enough).
your main goal is to have always the board control to push face damage, you obtain these by trading with face or by buffing a 1/1 minion into a 5/1 to trad a 4 health opponent creep instead an IR:7 for exampe against mage since the 5/1 dies from HP the next turn. so as you understand the optimal play is always different and depends on how the games goes on (can abuse the board after second brawl and sleep with the fishes from opponent warrior, can go for a buff from the bonemare after second SW: death from opponent priest and so on).
in the end the right mulligan and play strategy depends a lot on the class of the opponent and not his playstile since you are gonna play around his removals (both single target and AoE).
push face damage only when you are setting lethal in not more than a couple of turns.
swashburglar is a great target for shadowstep and with him IR:7, edwin and as mentioned before keleseth. Leeroy could be a great target too for a fast finish with 12 dmg face (18 if you have the coin on turn 10+).
firefly is a good drop 1 but is also a great combo activator so you are not usually drop him with the couple he provides unless on early turns to grant a better board control.
Xaril 1 mana spells also are great for comboing and can grant what you need so if having to decide between trading Xaril and another minion on the same target (a huge taunt for example) always go first with xarils (obviusly not on a divine shield if the second creep is patch and the enemy minion has 3 health xD).
for what regards subbing i think you have not many choices since there are a lot of common and one rare which are kinda easy to craft or find so not gonna give subs for them.
epics are a must except for shadowcaster, it can be subbed and sincerely i’d go for second hallucination which does almost the opposite (full mana card granting a 1 mana copy the shadowcaster, 1 mana card granting a full mana copy of what you need), obviously shadowcaster is better in the deck, but this is kinda a decent sub, the problem is some opponent’s are gonna give better cards than other while your deck is almost never gonna fail you so shadowcaster is usually better.
Keleseth has no direct sub and would make the deck crush since you are avoiding turn 2 dropd to play him.
Patches is great but not necessary, grants better trades and deck thinning but i’d sap him for a second hallucination or second shadowcaster (to keep the 1 mana card for combos) or with a second tar creepe which is a great defensive drop for turn 3 so can give great defense on aggros.
Edwin is also a must and i recommend crafting since it sees play in almost every rogue deck due to the great tempo swing it can provide and is also great in late game at every statline from a simple 4/4 and over. if you wanna sub it i’d go for tar creeper to grant a better aggro matchup (loses a lot to control tho) or a questing adventurer (similar effect).
Shaku can be subbed but is a great card in the deck, primal treat for opponents and almost always grants a card so cycles himself (2 or more cards are simply great). i’d go for the usual tar creeper, also shadow caster is good tho and hallucination. shadowblade and deathly fork are also decent subs to me tho (completely underlevelled but have the situations where you’d thank for having them, mostly the fork covers the curve).
Xaril is simply great and if youu want to drop it you could go, as i should have mentione before, for Hallucination or Shadowcaster since they have a similar effect (they are/grant a 1 mana card and card advantage) but if you have it a great sub would be keleseth’s brother: Prince Valanar. obviously he would be the not only 4 drop sosimply sub spellbreaker for ironbeak howl,
Leeroy is again a not easy sub, provides a lot of face dmg: 6 to 14 with cold blood kinda easily and can arrive to 20 (leeroy+shadowstep+leeroy(again)+cold blood(x2)) or 22 (same as before but plus double keleseth before drawing him, not triple since you are using a shadowstep on leeroy). you can go for a reckless rocketeer that is the same card but 1 more mana and one less dmg without the battlecry (which usually is everything but a problem tho). a second spellbreaker could be a decent sub that should provide you more over taunt cheating or getting rid of pesky deathrattles without thinking too much since it would be one of two silences in the deck and not anymore the only one you run. Bittertyde Hydra is the last sub you could run to me, rly huge treat but kinda risky on tokens since can be a 3 to 24 dmg directly to your face so play it with care. (Lotus assassin is also a sub but with a totally different impact on the game, can provide some value trade which you are looking for but is kinda slow. depending on game could be great or dead card so not sure of it).
i think this is all folk, hope i was useful to you or to everyone reading these before a proper guide hits, had fun doing this tho and let me think about the deck so can’t be useless in the long run. cya and gl with the deck!
Muy bueno Tu aporte amigo. Es un Deck muy bueno, muy divertido y lo mejor es que tienes un buen win rate.
The most important thing… you must think! Is easy made mistakes with all the combos and posaibilitys and that is what makes strong this deck. Is not just throwing cards! Is about dominate the field.
I wouldn’t sub the cold blood this way, obviously one more Shadowcaster can be helpful in a lot of situations but usually cold blood can be user to value trade (patches into highmane for example) and also to push more damage on the face which are the main goals of the deck. Shadowcaster can be used to target mainly Edwin, keleseth, bonemare and vilespine sinceramente are the targets with the most impactful battlecries.
Let’s analyze:
Edwin provides usually huge swings early and since it’s an aggro deck with no 2 drop and love draw/card generating ability you are hardly gonna have enough steam in late (also if you are targetting him Meana you already have a big Edwin on board)
Keleseth almost same ad Edwin, even stronger early but even weaker late.
Bonemare is a pretty good target but is 7 mana and shadowcaster is 5 so it’s a 2 turns play (will bonemare survive?) In a usually topdeck situation (turn 7+) when you may (or may not) find a good target for him.
Vilespine is obviously the best aim, provides a removal (rly cheap on 1 mana) but loses the tempo swing that is massive on the card, plus you already have 2 of them and 1 Shadowcaster plus double shadowstep.
In the end i think it’s a suboptimal sub and not even cheaper. I made that change in a rogue n’zoth Jade deck i found in community are of this site, was good cause had many targets (aya as best example) which provided massive battlecry/combo/deathrattle effects providing tempo swing with the 4/4 body, here tempo is a problema you should really don’t have by that time of a game but even in case shadowstep is usually a better card for that purpose.
Said that this is Just my opinion from games i Jade with this and followed both yagut and asmo playing various versions of this. I’m still not a widely recognized pro so it’s not the wisest opinion on the net xD
EDIT:
didn’t went Deep in coldblood but except for trade or face doesn’t has weird applications so hadn’t to ho Deep on It. As i said suits more the deck tho.
Sorry for edits but i’m from mobile xD
Btw if evident would pass by could provide better suggestions surely 😀
Thank you for the good tips. I’ve just won 12 games in a row with this deck, because of your good advice, despite my bad luck (i was able to get the prince on turn two just two times…). Another great tip i could give is not to focus on drawing the prince in your opening hand. if you have a good opening curve just keep the cards, they are good by themselves.
Is it worth playing this deck without the prince and sub in two evis. I really don’t want to craft that card, espesally since I opened the 4 mana prince in a pack.
Prince keleseth is one of the strongest card from the latest expansion. It has no replacements in this deck. The other 2 prince aren’t as good as this one.
if you play any aggro deck you will likely want to run Prince k. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve gotten Prince coin and shadowstep in opening hand which is basically a win.
I’m doing the same, I’ve replaced Shaku with plague doctor and xaril with a second shadowcaster. You could also try a Journey below that way you could combo easier and potentially get xaril anyway
Went from 15 to 12 almost 0 losses. So far so good. I think I’ll craft xaril next but plague doctor/second shadowcaster are being used in other variations of the deck that I’ve seen pros use. Big priest can be a rough matchup but besides that this deck has been ?.
Its better to craft shaku, He is really good against Aggro or Control and brings good value with him. Also for most of the time he is top threat for the Opponent to be removed.His effect is unique and I dont think there is no possible alternative for him besides a tech card.
Would -1 Xaril -1 Spellbreaker +Prince Valanar and +Ironbeak be good or are the 1 drop poisons too essential for comboing? I recently disenchanted Xaril and so I need a replacement.
Thank you! I’ll give that a try, it will be nice to have a second copy for the 1 cost card and the chance to draw it sooner to copy kele if I draw him later.
What do you expect? Control warrior? handlock? Control paladin? They all lack a strong win condition, the only other control deck that has a win condition as strong as Shadowreaper Anduin It’s Fatigue warrior, but seems like a pretty hard deck to play
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Really shitty deck… to play against…
just cause of 1 card.
prince kele seth , WAY TOO STRONG !!
mostly this deck will boost it with 2+2 then its game over already. Most rogues have this card and its game over every time.
They should ban this card !
That is just not true. You can look up the statistics online if you want. People over estimate the impact of this card way too much. The main reason why kelezeth have such a strong winrate is because people immediately concede instead of playing it out. Think about it, if you play kelezeth on turn 2 and by turn 6 you have drawn two minions and two spells you have gained essentially a 2/2 of stats over 4 rounds (+ plus the tempo loss of playing a 2 mana 2/2), that is not unbeatable by any means! Even with kelezeth + shadowstep you can still easily lose if you draw badly afterwards because you have expended most of your opening hand!
This deck is shit. Confirmed. 0-6 thus far. Replace Shaku with something useful. Southsea hardly works if you draw your patches. All around bad deck tbh, I would search somewhere else for a similar deck with replacements.
Talking shit about a deck in 6 games is ridiculous. Play 50 games if ur gonna have less then 50% winrate ur just straight bad imo.
Any replacements for leeroy?
Reckless Rocketeer or Argent Commander maybe? idk
Don’t have Shaku or Xaril and don’t have the dust to craft ’em, so I tried replacing them with a second Shadowcaster and a Plague Doctor. Pretty decent, but the lack of draw really made the deck suffer. Now I’m running it with 2 Coldlight Seers and seeing a much higher win rate. Particularly against priests, against whom I would get reliably rekt before. Personally my favorite Keleseth deck, prefer it over Zoolock or the new Pirate Warrior by a long run.
I don’t know if my luck is bad or what but I have like a 10% winrate with this deck like wtf am i doing wrong I get the perfect trun one prince 2 into shadowstep into prince 2 and jsut repeatedly lose. dont know whats so great about this deck lol ive been to rank 5 using other aggro decks and this one is just not working at all so I dont know what the deal is
No the deck is not so good..i believe when come out,no one knows the deck and get some high wins.but now is predictable..And any deck can deal with this for fun.
I hope you come back to this comment one day, or get notified, that you were extremely wrong and that this deck was used at the HCT championship
Is Southsea Captain good in this deck? Would viscous fledgling be a good replacement
If you don’t get Swashburgler or Southsea Deckhand in the first couple turns, turn 3 Captain is nice, especially if you get Keleseth before that. I’ve come out with some 4/4 Patches thru Shadowstepping Keleseth twice and it’s pretty tough to answer that early in the game.
If the only card you’re missing is Vancleef, then Questing Adventurer is a decent swap.
Please keep up playing with this deck, so I can climb to legend with my evolve shaman 😛
We can add a vanish for ya if you want ?
Seriously, it’s not OP and the only good match ups are against Priest and Druid.
I’m 4rank and went from 5 undefeated against 4 for those.
I don’t count the 7-6rank cause most of the players just neckdeck it without knowing how to pilot it and ofc they got recked.
For my taste, miracle is more consistent and I think tempo/aggro will fall to tier2 next season.
I’m thinking to try this deck, but i haven’t patches, shadowcaster and xaril.
how can i replace this card?
i’m thinking to cobalt scalebane naga and plague scientist, but i’m not sure… what’s do u think abuot this?
ty all for the answer
What can i use instead of edwin and xaril? meanwhile i somehow manage to get em ? :/
if you have the prince valanar i suggest playing:
-1 xaril
-1 spellbreaker
-1 edwin
+1 prince valanar
+1 ironbeak howl
+1 cobalt scalebane
if you don’t have him you can sub this way:
-1 xaril
-1 edwin
+1 cobalt scalebane
+1 hallucination/shadowcaster/cobalt scalebane
This deck is very solid, I removed a bonemare though in order to fit in valeera.
This is mostly an aggro deck, and valeera, which helps you in a value game on turn 10- and is a turn 9 do nothing, does not really fit. The bonemare helps to just kill them before you even hit 9 mana. imo
LOL with this Deck from Rank 11 to Rank 15! Thanks mate… I don’t know what I’ve been doing wrong
this deck has an overall 58% winrate with no actual matchup coing under 50% winrate (52% the worse on priest to 64% the best on mage and paladin) so i don’t think this deck could be claimed garbage since many pros are playing this deck or some rly similar variants with a couple card changes. maybe you got tilted after a couple of bad luck games or simply you are not suited to play this kind of deck. it’s not a stupid aggro like pre nerf pirate warrior used to. rly need to play around removals and have the most efficient trades till you can rush the face for a fast win. i recommend trying it again in a good mood, don’t get salty to god draws on opponents since shit happens and you’ll start ranking up.
said that maybe Aggro is not your playstile and you are more suited to midrange, combo or control decks so it’s not the deck but you, still keeping to try this deck will eventually get you better at it and will grant you a level up on your whole game skill so again: keep trying.
or simply drop the deck, i was totally a sucker with pre nerf aggro token druid and it was tier 0, i had many tries on it but simply kept losing. it was not made for me, could be the same for you and this one xD
Yes, i don’t say that this Deck is Bad, i think it is my fault…. thanks for reply mate
This deck has no draw… You end up buffing with keleseth then end up playing top deck…
guide?
this can be fast:
play for tempo and try to be always the one questioning (so to place treats on the board in order to have the opponent to answer your board).
obviously everygame is different, a huge edwin pre turn 4 (3 w/ coin) is a enormous treat against mage, can be more easily answered by priest or hunter (turn 3 or 2 w/ coin) and is absolutely great on druid for example (naturalize exist but is kinda rare at the moment), on a shaman which has devolve as easy way to “silence” edwin it’s better to fight for board, you do that by playing on curve and having the best trades (like a smart aggro and not a SMOrc bonobo). turn 1 swashburglar(+ patches) plus turn 2(+coin) southsea captain buffing other pirates is a huge tempo swing that grants an hard pressure on the opponent, the dream play isn’t this tho. ghaving keleseth on turn 2 (1 w/ coin) is huge plus shadowstep is enormous plus second shadowstep is humungous and can straightly win games in a couple turns.
for what concerns mulligan i’d go for always keep a turn 1 play (hallucination doesn’t count), firefly is good but a pirate pulling patches is better (with swashburglar over southsea deckhand), you ALWAYS keep keleseth since it’s your only turn 2 curve play (except HP) and grants a massive buff winning games (i won’t repeat it enough).
your main goal is to have always the board control to push face damage, you obtain these by trading with face or by buffing a 1/1 minion into a 5/1 to trad a 4 health opponent creep instead an IR:7 for exampe against mage since the 5/1 dies from HP the next turn. so as you understand the optimal play is always different and depends on how the games goes on (can abuse the board after second brawl and sleep with the fishes from opponent warrior, can go for a buff from the bonemare after second SW: death from opponent priest and so on).
in the end the right mulligan and play strategy depends a lot on the class of the opponent and not his playstile since you are gonna play around his removals (both single target and AoE).
push face damage only when you are setting lethal in not more than a couple of turns.
swashburglar is a great target for shadowstep and with him IR:7, edwin and as mentioned before keleseth. Leeroy could be a great target too for a fast finish with 12 dmg face (18 if you have the coin on turn 10+).
firefly is a good drop 1 but is also a great combo activator so you are not usually drop him with the couple he provides unless on early turns to grant a better board control.
Xaril 1 mana spells also are great for comboing and can grant what you need so if having to decide between trading Xaril and another minion on the same target (a huge taunt for example) always go first with xarils (obviusly not on a divine shield if the second creep is patch and the enemy minion has 3 health xD).
for what regards subbing i think you have not many choices since there are a lot of common and one rare which are kinda easy to craft or find so not gonna give subs for them.
epics are a must except for shadowcaster, it can be subbed and sincerely i’d go for second hallucination which does almost the opposite (full mana card granting a 1 mana copy the shadowcaster, 1 mana card granting a full mana copy of what you need), obviously shadowcaster is better in the deck, but this is kinda a decent sub, the problem is some opponent’s are gonna give better cards than other while your deck is almost never gonna fail you so shadowcaster is usually better.
Keleseth has no direct sub and would make the deck crush since you are avoiding turn 2 dropd to play him.
Patches is great but not necessary, grants better trades and deck thinning but i’d sap him for a second hallucination or second shadowcaster (to keep the 1 mana card for combos) or with a second tar creepe which is a great defensive drop for turn 3 so can give great defense on aggros.
Edwin is also a must and i recommend crafting since it sees play in almost every rogue deck due to the great tempo swing it can provide and is also great in late game at every statline from a simple 4/4 and over. if you wanna sub it i’d go for tar creeper to grant a better aggro matchup (loses a lot to control tho) or a questing adventurer (similar effect).
Shaku can be subbed but is a great card in the deck, primal treat for opponents and almost always grants a card so cycles himself (2 or more cards are simply great). i’d go for the usual tar creeper, also shadow caster is good tho and hallucination. shadowblade and deathly fork are also decent subs to me tho (completely underlevelled but have the situations where you’d thank for having them, mostly the fork covers the curve).
Xaril is simply great and if youu want to drop it you could go, as i should have mentione before, for Hallucination or Shadowcaster since they have a similar effect (they are/grant a 1 mana card and card advantage) but if you have it a great sub would be keleseth’s brother: Prince Valanar. obviously he would be the not only 4 drop sosimply sub spellbreaker for ironbeak howl,
Leeroy is again a not easy sub, provides a lot of face dmg: 6 to 14 with cold blood kinda easily and can arrive to 20 (leeroy+shadowstep+leeroy(again)+cold blood(x2)) or 22 (same as before but plus double keleseth before drawing him, not triple since you are using a shadowstep on leeroy). you can go for a reckless rocketeer that is the same card but 1 more mana and one less dmg without the battlecry (which usually is everything but a problem tho). a second spellbreaker could be a decent sub that should provide you more over taunt cheating or getting rid of pesky deathrattles without thinking too much since it would be one of two silences in the deck and not anymore the only one you run. Bittertyde Hydra is the last sub you could run to me, rly huge treat but kinda risky on tokens since can be a 3 to 24 dmg directly to your face so play it with care. (Lotus assassin is also a sub but with a totally different impact on the game, can provide some value trade which you are looking for but is kinda slow. depending on game could be great or dead card so not sure of it).
i think this is all folk, hope i was useful to you or to everyone reading these before a proper guide hits, had fun doing this tho and let me think about the deck so can’t be useless in the long run. cya and gl with the deck!
EDIT:
“this can be fast” obviously refers to the following 2 lines, should have left some space after it xD
Muy bueno Tu aporte amigo. Es un Deck muy bueno, muy divertido y lo mejor es que tienes un buen win rate.
The most important thing… you must think! Is easy made mistakes with all the combos and posaibilitys and that is what makes strong this deck. Is not just throwing cards! Is about dominate the field.
thanks for the guide bud it has been very helpfull.. i”ve made 1 change and its running great
-1 cold blood
+ 1 shadowcaster
I wouldn’t sub the cold blood this way, obviously one more Shadowcaster can be helpful in a lot of situations but usually cold blood can be user to value trade (patches into highmane for example) and also to push more damage on the face which are the main goals of the deck. Shadowcaster can be used to target mainly Edwin, keleseth, bonemare and vilespine sinceramente are the targets with the most impactful battlecries.
Let’s analyze:
Edwin provides usually huge swings early and since it’s an aggro deck with no 2 drop and love draw/card generating ability you are hardly gonna have enough steam in late (also if you are targetting him Meana you already have a big Edwin on board)
Keleseth almost same ad Edwin, even stronger early but even weaker late.
Bonemare is a pretty good target but is 7 mana and shadowcaster is 5 so it’s a 2 turns play (will bonemare survive?) In a usually topdeck situation (turn 7+) when you may (or may not) find a good target for him.
Vilespine is obviously the best aim, provides a removal (rly cheap on 1 mana) but loses the tempo swing that is massive on the card, plus you already have 2 of them and 1 Shadowcaster plus double shadowstep.
In the end i think it’s a suboptimal sub and not even cheaper. I made that change in a rogue n’zoth Jade deck i found in community are of this site, was good cause had many targets (aya as best example) which provided massive battlecry/combo/deathrattle effects providing tempo swing with the 4/4 body, here tempo is a problema you should really don’t have by that time of a game but even in case shadowstep is usually a better card for that purpose.
Said that this is Just my opinion from games i Jade with this and followed both yagut and asmo playing various versions of this. I’m still not a widely recognized pro so it’s not the wisest opinion on the net xD
EDIT:
didn’t went Deep in coldblood but except for trade or face doesn’t has weird applications so hadn’t to ho Deep on It. As i said suits more the deck tho.
Sorry for edits but i’m from mobile xD
Btw if evident would pass by could provide better suggestions surely 😀
ends up you r right dude, when u r playing the value game cold blood its cheaper and its more usefull!
learned that the hard way!
Thank you for the good tips. I’ve just won 12 games in a row with this deck, because of your good advice, despite my bad luck (i was able to get the prince on turn two just two times…). Another great tip i could give is not to focus on drawing the prince in your opening hand. if you have a good opening curve just keep the cards, they are good by themselves.
Is it worth playing this deck without the prince and sub in two evis. I really don’t want to craft that card, espesally since I opened the 4 mana prince in a pack.
Prince keleseth is one of the strongest card from the latest expansion. It has no replacements in this deck. The other 2 prince aren’t as good as this one.
if you play any aggro deck you will likely want to run Prince k. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve gotten Prince coin and shadowstep in opening hand which is basically a win.
This deck has no draw..?
Any replacement for those Southsea Captains?
+1
how can I replace xaril and shaku? Don’t really see the point in playing shaku. xaril is ok, but i don’t wanna spend 1600 on him.
I’m doing the same, I’ve replaced Shaku with plague doctor and xaril with a second shadowcaster. You could also try a Journey below that way you could combo easier and potentially get xaril anyway
what rank have u reached with those cahnges, dude?
changes*
Went from 15 to 12 almost 0 losses. So far so good. I think I’ll craft xaril next but plague doctor/second shadowcaster are being used in other variations of the deck that I’ve seen pros use. Big priest can be a rough matchup but besides that this deck has been ?.
For Shaku I’d go with a second Tar Creeper.
Its better to craft shaku, He is really good against Aggro or Control and brings good value with him. Also for most of the time he is top threat for the Opponent to be removed.His effect is unique and I dont think there is no possible alternative for him besides a tech card.
I actually run sprint instead of it. It can be useless or match winning at times
Would -1 Xaril -1 Spellbreaker +Prince Valanar and +Ironbeak be good or are the 1 drop poisons too essential for comboing? I recently disenchanted Xaril and so I need a replacement.
I’ve been running a second shadowcaster instead of xaril, It’s been working really well so far
Thank you! I’ll give that a try, it will be nice to have a second copy for the 1 cost card and the chance to draw it sooner to copy kele if I draw him later.
Yeah super versatile, comes in super handy with vilespines
Debating crafting either Leeroy or xaril, which one is more crucial?
Leeroy definitely. Leeroy is a staple in a lot of decks so you’ll be using him more often. Xaril is rarely seen.
+1
Thanks!
How important is Prince 2?
It’s got insane value if you pull it off with shadowstep turn one +2/+2 to every minion in your deck….
Yep, it’s very important and just outright wins you games.
The most important card in the deck.
It is not the only win condition for this deck.
The key is to mulligan accordingly to your opponent class.
For example:
1. Try to get Firefly and not pirates against Hunter.
I would say S.I or Southsea Captain on coins would be much better than to look for a single prince out of 30 cards.
Any sub for shaku ? (I have all the other cards)
Shaku isn’t really important. You can add anything like second shadow caster maybe. I have seen other decks with Plague Doctor too so maybe that.
Shaku are pretty important as it ensure that you don’t run out of cards / resources.
Rogue require proper planning on card usage as the combo synergy may end up hurt you more than your opponent.
I suggest to replace with some card draw cards for Shaku
Wtf are your problem with those aggros?! Seems no one, litterally NO ONE plays control.
Oh sorry, there are some Highlander priests somewhere. The much they do is just spam hero power and survive.
What do you expect? Control warrior? handlock? Control paladin? They all lack a strong win condition, the only other control deck that has a win condition as strong as Shadowreaper Anduin It’s Fatigue warrior, but seems like a pretty hard deck to play
Handlock has the best hero power by now, but is totally unavaiable.