Lady in White
Lady in White is a 6 Mana Cost Legendary Priest Minion card from the The Witchwood set!
Card Text
Battlecry: Cast 'Inner Fire' on every minion in your deck (set Attack equal to Health).
Flavor Text
She was a lady in polka dots until the gnomish laundromat incident.- Mana Cost: 6
- Attack: 5
- Health: 5
- Crafting Cost: 1600 / 3200 (Golden)
- Arcane Dust Gained: 400 / 1600 (Golden)
- Rarity: Legendary
- Class: Priest
- Card Type: Minion
- Set: The Witchwood
- Mechanics: Battlecry
Cards Relating to Lady in White
| Inner Fire Type: Spell - Cost: 1 Change a minion's Attack to be equal to its Health. |
Lady in White Card Review
While this card will definitely require some clever deck building to take full advantage of it, the effect is insane. Priest, a class that doesn’t have to play for tempo, can easily afford to run a slower card like this. Some compare it to Shaman’s The Mistcaller, but I have to disagree. Mistcaller has worse stats (4/4 and 5/5 is a significant difference), and to be fair, a worse effect too. It always gave you flat +1/+1 on all minions. This one is better in a way that thanks to deck building, you can make the effect much better. For example, you put a Stonehill Defender into your deck. Would you rather have a 2/5 Taunt (Mistcaller) or a 4/4 Taunt (Lady in White)? Yep, the second one is much better. Or let’s take an even more drastic example – Ysera. 5/13 vs 12/12 – the second one is a clear winner.
The comparison is also about the context of those two classes. Slow Priest decks have low tempo and Control Priest already has tons of great cards. Control Shaman wasn’t great, didn’t play enough minions that would benefit from the effect heavily, and faster Shaman decks didn’t want to play Mistcaller, because it was too slow.
Priest is well known for playing high health minions, because they already synergize with the class play style and Hero Power. However, this won’t be a case of “just slap it into any deck and it will work” Legendary – it’s hard to deny that a 6 mana 5/5 with no immediate effect needs to have a solid payback to be worth including. Just buffing a few minions in your deck is not enough, especially since it does not affect your hand, so you still have to draw them. It also doesn’t work on minions summoned through cards like Free From Amber.
But, just to give you a few examples of solid minions that have a higher health than attack and can fit into a slower Priest list: Northshire Cleric, Radiant Elemental, Stonehill Defender, Tar Creeper, Tortollan Shellraiser, Primordial Drake, Obsidian Statue, Ysera. Heck, even Doomsayer would be interesting. You would be able to play it against your opponent with a board that can kill it – instead of just soaking 7 damage it would also kill some minions as well. I could have missed something, but that’s already lots of minions that would get buffed, most of them significantly. I didn’t count the ones that are rotating out like Priest of the Feast or Book Wyrm, but that obviously would be something to consider for the Wild.
I’ve heard some people saying that you can even play Oasis Snapjaw or Mogu'shan Warden – yep, they would become 7/7 (4 mana 7/7 LUL), which is great. But a card like that is unplayable BEFORE you play Lady in White, which means that it wouldn’t fit into such a deck.
Also, we need to remember that it would reduce the attack of minions with higher attack than health. Priest isn’t really known for running such minions, but it happens sometimes – e.g. Wild Pyromancer or possibly Bone Drake in a Dragon deck. In those cases, it’s just 1 attack, but it might be quite a big deal in the future if e.g. a 6/3 minion Priest wants to play would be printed. Edit: I just realized that it would make Twilight Drake useless – it would get reduced to 1 attack. See, that’s the thing, this effect is not always positive and you will need to think hard to come up with a perfect list. NOT a list built 100% around it, because it would probably be terrible if you don’t draw it. Just a list that would benefit most from this card while keeping a solid win rate if you don’t draw it. Something like Prince Keleseth in a way – it improves the deck, but you can still easily win without it.
All said, I feel like this card is very powerful. Maybe not “10/10 busted, auto include” powerful, but for now it looks very strong.
Card rating: 8/10
Lady in White Full Card Art
too bad i already hav golden priest, i need to work on my other classes 🙁
Best card in the set. Forget the even/odd BS. Day 1 craft.
this will be a meme card most likely 🙁
You can say that, but it hardly makes it true. There are no direct tutors for it, except in rare cases that low minion that tutors for your lowest health minion, you’d have to hope it’s not your last few cards or even last ten, unless half or more of them become really strong minions that can impact the game when they hit play. If it were to trigger on minions you own on the battlefield it would likely be OP. Minions in hand, balanced, but in you’re deck, it’s like playing Russian Roulette if you choose to build a deck completely around this card, unless any future cards spoiled significantly change it’s potential for the better.
I didn’t think a card could get more overrated than Rebuke, but here we are.
I don’t understand how people think this card is going to be stupidly good, and there’s a couple of counter-points I’d like to make.
1) The “New Keleseth” Argument.
Keleseth was an amazing card in TEMPO decks, because it was a decent statline at 2 Mana that gave you an insane effect for the entire rest of the game. I’m not sure you’ve noticed, but 6 Mana and 2 Mana are VERY different in terms of impact on the rest of the game. And that’s assuming you even draw Lady in White in the first place, but I’ll get to that. Keleseth was played in Tempo decks. This is far from a tempo card. 6 Mana for a 5-5 is pretty underwhelming.
2) The “Makes worse cards viable” Argument
Please. There’s no chance that you’re going to be playing Mogu’shan Warden and Lightwell in any Priest deck simply because this card exists. If you wouldn’t play the card before the effect, you shouldn’t play the card for after the effect either.
3) The “Makes viable cards broken” Argument
The vast majority of the time, you’re not playing Ysera or Obsidian Statue for the 4 Attack, you’re playing it because it has a good effect. The vast majority of the time, if you manage to stick a Ysera on the board for more than 2 turns, chances are you’re going to win the game anyway. And that’s assuming you’re even willing to not play a deck that can cheat Ysera out earlier. Not to mention it barely does anything for Radiant Elemental, Twilight Acolyte (it’s actually a mostly negative return in this case), Duskbreaker, and Chameleos.
I certainly don’t think that the card is complete and utter trash, but I don’t think it’s going to see a huge amount of competitive play.
2 Stars from me.
yeah one person who know what‘s going on I have the same point of view like you have 6 mana 5 5 cast inner fire is still to bad
Finally someone who has common sense and agrees with me.
People are overrating her.(As nice as she looks)
If you build a deck around her, the issue is, you need to draw her, and summon her, and shes 6 mana, i don’t think a deck with her can possibly be better than the current archetype of priest decks(big spell)
3 stars
Need to build a control deck around this card. It’s the new big priest.
Whether or not big priest is the best priest deck depends at times, but there’s no doubt that it’s pretty good.
i agree that keleseth is good in tempo and thats right so 2 mana is right for him.
but priest is a midrange control class and there is more chance to draw this card until turn 6.
i dont see anything wrong for playing this on 6 cuz priest useully starts after turn 4 or 5 if it was aa hunter card ofc it was bad but for a priest that has best removal spells it can be very effective.
yeah ysera is a very good card but her body is weak .this card gives u a ysera that can win with her body not only with her effect.same goes for sleepy dragon and statue persoanlly i play statue for his lifesteal.the lifesteal can be double and it insane.and u rly dont need to build your deck around it statue and ysera being play in many priest deck we lose some dragons we can replace them with primordial drake and sleepy dragon .no need to play lightwell and some trash card no one play.
This could work, but a lot of board clears are rotating out.
http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/decks/new-big-priest-1st-build/
This card is insanely overrated
Anyone wondering about the way this is worded? Cast… i wanna test this with lore walker cho
Don’t worry; as long as you don’t cast, Cho just won’t care.
Corridor creeper is back
I don’t think so because Lady in White affects only the minions in your deck so you can’t cant draw Creeper until you’ve played her then after you play Lady then draw Creeper you need to ya e several minions die
Indeed. Funny these naysayers.
Lady in White is overrated. Climate change doesn’t exist. Guns don’t kill people.
Unfortunately the peoples makes stereotypes in their heads and get confused with that,probly their look at the lady in white effect and think “lol,inner fire and Priest cards are so op,this will be very op too Just because that” and forget that inner fire is just good sometimes because the combo with divine spirit,and you should build a deck around lady in white(cause It wouldnt work in meta decks)to it work and…it wouldnt work cause in most of the games you wont draw the lady,while you must play poor Minions in the board…maybe It enter in a dragon Priest but It would veeery useless,just to guarantee a inevitable win when you actually can win…
ppl who say u should build your deck around it .are u sure u read the text card? there is no condition to active it like highlander or odd or even.
u can play it in every kind of deck u want.
i belive just someone who never played priest says u need to build the deck around this card.
think first .
Then Barnes and big priest shouldn’t be a thing, but it is.
This is card forms the next big priest deck.
This card will see no competitive play unless it gets some serious support in the rest of the set.
In spiteful priest, you don’t want a 6mana card that loses you the tempo, and the games don’t last nearly long enough for the attack buffs to be relevant;
In combo priest it’s just useless, you have way too many spells, and it doesn’t help the divine spirit inner fire combo at all;
In control priest, well it’s obviously a terrible card against aggressive decks, and your win condition against slow decks is to steal their big minions with acolyte + cabal, which you won’t be able to, because the acolyte will have 4atk.
It’s bad, not only for the same reason that the mistcaller was bad, but also because it disables twilight acolyte and twilight drake.
Good point about twilight acolyte but the rest isn’t really that well thought out. Shadow visions rotated out so who cares if it fits in combo priest. There are going to be new archetypes.
Guess it didn’t rotate out. My bad.
Shadow Visions is from Un’Goro, it doesn’t rotate out.
And yes, there may be new priest decks, but again, in a tempo based deck you don’t want a low tempo 6drop; in a combo deck you don’t want it either, and in a control deck, you’ll still want the twilight acolyte over that.
If you know deckbuilding a little, try to think of a deck list, with the lady in white, with an actual gameplan, that makes sense. Is it control, tempo, with removal, with aoe, is there the dragon package, is there innerfire+divine spirit, what’s the mana cost curve like, and how does the deck win?
It’s when you actually think of a deck and its win condition that you realize the card is just bad.
I still think it has potential in a tempo deck like spiteful if the dragon package falls apart for a while.
On HS replay, if you look at a spiteful priest list, you can see that the average duration of a game is 9.5 turns.
This means that in the best case scenario, by the end of a game of average length where you played the lady on 6, you’ll benefit from 2.5 buffed minions. If we say that the average card in your deck gets +2atk, and the buffed minion is always the best play, then it’s a total of +5atk over 3 turns.
Do you think this is worth it, given you had to play a 6mana 5/5? How much stat should a 6mana minion have, in order to be good? At the very least a 8/8? Well then it means you lost 6 stats instantly in order to gain 5 stats later. It’s horrendous.
Now, there is another, big, problem. In spiteful priest, on turn 6, you play 12/12 worth of stats, and use that unanswerable tempo to win. That’s the best play and that’s why the deck exists, you can’t really make a spiteful priest and not try to play spiteful on 6. And if you play the Lady later, on turn 7, then you draw one less buffed minion, so the card is even worse.
9.5 – 6 isn’t 2.5. You get a buffed minion on 7, 8, 9 and half of one on 9.5 🙂 Also I’ve played plenty of 18 turn games with spiteful priest. It’s ok if some games end before you get to the end of your curve.
or you could just, you know, build an original deck with this card in it
If it sais “cast” i think it will synergizes with auctioner, lyra and so on… Not says give your minions attack equals to power. Key word i hope “cast” inner fire
“Attack equals to health “
It means “cast” as a battlecry effect.
Not “cast” as a spell.
So it should say ‘ set power equal to health”. Why they specific say cast inner Fire? For the fun? To remind us That inner Fire is rotating? Well lets wait… 🙂
So it should say ‘ set power equal to health”. Why they specific say cast ? For the fun? To remind us That inner Fire is rotating? Well lets wait… 🙂
1) Inner Fire isn’t rotating.
2) Text like this has been seen before on cards like Lynessa. And she doesn’t work with Auctioneer or Voraxx.
It actually DOES say what you’re suggesting, it just had it in italics.
Sorry.. Not inner Fire but the combo.
1.Lynessa is so much different. Doesn t affect the library
2. Why say cast inner Fire? Why not only say what its says on italics?
@Kothoga
Archmage Antonidas references Fireball. Ghastly Conjurer references Mirror Image. Ball of Spiders references Webspinner. ETC and both versions of Elise reference non-collectible cards without mentioning what those cards do. This isn’t the first time that other cards have been mentioned without explanation as to what the cards do.
And the combo’s not rotating. Divine Spirit is part of the Basic set, while Inner Fire is part of the Classic set. Unless they decide to nerf or move them to the Hall of Fame, the combo’s not going anywhere.
This card is crazily overpowered. Priest has many minions that have more health than attack and the rest has equal stats. What I don’t understand is, how can Warrior get 2 2* legendaries and priest get this mother of overpowerdness.
Both the warrior legendary minions are better cards than the Lady in white.
Dude,a 5 4/6 minion with rush and a 7 minion that is a threat to opponent board and can kill the opponent if you kill 1 damage cards against controls,both are VEEEEERY better than a minion that give a shit bonus atack in your deck,just look at how many minions can get an buff with that…
a 7 minion that is a threat to opponent board and can kill the oponnet if can kill 1 damage card against control.what is that:DDDDDD
im not sure even if yourself understand what u said.
Wow.
Astonishing!
This card seems like it has a lot of potential. Seems like a good canidate for something like a controlling style dragon priest. It could easily make cards like ysera and the other big dragons very strong. I mean a 9 mana 12/12 with the ysera effect seems very strong. Even sleepy dragon doesn’t seem that bad. 9 mana 12/12 taunt or even an 8 mana 8/8 primordial drake . The only real downsides are that twilight drake is a bad fit (being turned into a 4 mana 1/X), and the dragon package being a bit weaker with the loss of cards like Drakonid Op and Netherspite Historian. With a few more decent dragons added, a deck like that wouldn’t be that bad as it benifits greatly from the effect of the Lady in White but doesn’t require it to perform effectively.
Control priest decks are based off using twilight acolyte with cabal in order to steal their opponent’s stuff. The Lady in White basically disables twilight acolyte, so including her is out of the question.
Bad card, really really bad card.
0/10
Nerfs the Rager (Magma, Ice, etc) deck into oblivion
Just as I was getting good at playing it, they come up with a card like this.
3 mana 1/1’s come on blizzard, give us some slack
I see nothing wrong with this card, its +4 attack for all I care, 10/10
This card is bad.
Just think about barnabus.
It is in deck not hand.
And what makes inner Fire good is that it works with health buffs.
There are many strong cards with high health, but they are terrible when you don’t draw her. Wow a 0/5 lightwell.
…. getting a 0/5 lightwell in 50% of your games is ok if in the other 50% your getting a 5/5 plus there’s so many card that are ten times better when you play this card its ok to draw 10 ok cards before it. the reason barnabus doesnt see play see play (imo im honestly not sure) is because in order for you to make it a win condition it required you to not draw 1 or more key minions, this card just start to slowly overwelm your opponent with insane value. as long as you have 5 cards in your deck that benefit from this effect it starts making the game really awkward for your opponent.
even if it’s as weak as you say, you gotta admit it looks super fun
Barnabus actualy sees play currently Savjz made a pretty decent deck with it.
this is going to sound like sarcasm, but i’m actually excited about this, barnabus is a fun card and i bet it’s a super fun deck, but i bet the win condition requires you not to draw 2 or more cards before quest. and it probably only runs about 10 minions
just looked at the deck list i was thinking of legendaries like kun or malygos, normal minions like devilsaur and cube are a little bit easier to pull of cause you get two copies
Each expansion priest is getting the insane cards this card makes the 4-12 taunt dragen even goed, Bone drake might see play again. It’s not so hard making a deck that benefits from this card. Though it’s only 1 card does that justify making a deck arround it?
It could atleast give Amara decks a win condition….
This card is certainly one of the better cards revealed so far. The hype is good and all but I’m wondering whether this will actually be more reliable than the current inner fire/divine spirit combo we have going on already. The card need some to be drawn to activate its effect so basically a low chance to get early enough consistently. By the late game, aggro may have killed you already (unlessyou run and draw board clears, but you may never reach turn 7 to phy scream). However cards that help are shadow visions so we run bassically 6 cards that help us pull of the combo making it moreover reliable. What do you guys think?
When I say 6 cards I mean the current combo we have.
The inner fire combo priest deck isn’t going to work nearly as well post expansion since you can’t just steal an opponents minion and kill them with it anymore meaning you have to use one of your own minions. Also you lost Drakonid and other larger dragons (book wyrm) meaning you are going to have a hard time getting one of your OWN minions to stick with enough health that double divine and inner fire actually kills someone (8 health for 32 and no talon priest anymore either so all you have is PW:S).
I dont see that deck working out.SUre you can turn some small minions into possible late game threats(Stonehill Defender , Tar Creeper etc) but the big benefit should be big minions.
FIrst thing coming to mind is cards like Ysera , Obsidian Statue.That’s it.I cant think of other worth putting in a deck.Sure Sleeping Dragon can be a possible pick or even Megasaur lol but i dont think making these kind of minions into even bigger would make a difference.On the contrary making Statue or ysera a lower or higher health minion only exposes them to more removals.
Also no matter how big minions you have there is no control deck outvalueing DK Guldan.He hero power of DK guldan is really far ahead of any other.
wuuuttt?
control priest actully can beat warlock very hard anz ez warlock always was a good farm for priest .i dont know why ppl think warlock is super good .but i played cubelock for 200 wins that deck is not that good u think even paladin can win u very ez when u draw bad .priest and mage is a bad match up also .broken class is paladin right now not a class taht can be counter with ozee and ghiest and silence mb u should tech some card.
Most decks can beat most decks if one has a exceptionally bad draw.
Control priest gets absolutely crushed by cube warlock.
Control priest defeats control warlock nearly everytime but if you play cube lock well you rarely lose to control priest.
Also you only really lose to Paladin if you don’t cheat a voilord out or if you don’t draw any of your AOE.
This card does absolutely nothing to help you out value those decks, because they can summon up to 19 Doomguards and just kill you with them.
Or make a massive swarm of Voidlords to block all your minion damage.
The reason secret Mage beats them is they have massive reach with burn spells that ignore Voidlords.
I call BS. Big Priest owns any warlock running cube.
control priest gets crushed by cubelock? wthhh dude they made control priest to counter cubelock i barely lose to cubelock with priest its not that hard to tech ozee and mind control .
i dont know what braket u playing but i play rank 5 to legend actully warlock is best matchup for me asa priest i always want warlock lol.r u sure u play heartstone?
Nerfed in two month…
This card is almost impossible to nerf. The stats on the card ultimately don’t matter, the battlecry can’t be changes without adding about six words, and it is already a control oriented card. If it is bumped up to 7 or 8 cost and used to buffed primarily 8 or higher cost minions, it’ll just come out later and pretty much do the same thing.
This card can’t be nerfed? lol
Stats matter, mana cost matters.
The stats on this don’t really matter. It’s like Emperor Thaurissan in that regard. Both could be 1/1s and still see play because of the massive upside the card has when you play it.
And the cost, given that it is already a slow card, also don’t matter unless you take it to the extreme like 8 mana. Slow, control oriented cards like this and Spreading Plaque can easily get bumped up a mana cost or two and still see regular play.
It is true that for combo decks that win without board pressure, stats matter less. However, if you play this card, you intent to win through board pressure, so stats matter fully.
You’ve noticed cards getting bumped by 1mana and still seeing play. Well that’s because those cards were OP, or essential to the deck. But that doesn’t mean it’s not a big nerf, that might push the deck back a Tier or two.
And in the particular case of the Lady in white, the mana cost is especially important, because the sooner you play it, the more value you get. Which is actually the reason the card won’t see any competitive play: turn 6 is already too late for a tempo deck.
I’m just gonna say it. I think this gets too much hype. It doesn’t work with twilight drake and it does nothing when you play it (it’s a 6 mana 5/5 without taunt or anything). You also can’t just pack your deck full of low power high toughness minions, because if you don’t draw that one card, most of them are pretty bad on their own. Too slow and too inconsistent imo.
Same thought here. It is basically a 6 cost keleseth with lower potential upside. It boosts only attack to equal health. And priest has a lot of cards that have close attack and health. And it is only cards in deck. It is not a constant inner fire it applies. It isnt like it becomes a light elemental. If i played this and drew a drakonid op. It would just be a 5 mana 6/6. Or if i played ysera it would be a 12/12 but that is best case scenario. And you cant use it with cards like humongous razor leaf. That minion cant attack so you would need to silencr it for it to hit. This card is very limited in its power and is undeserving of the 4.7 it has
well thats not true.
priest has obsidian statue.that will be great for 8 8 statue and sleepy dragon and tartolan or mani high hp minions that are good .this card is not a card u need to build the deck around it cuz it doesnt need a condition like highlander or odd thing.u can just play it as a 6 mana 5 5 than u can muligan hard for it proimodial drake can be 8 8 i guess thats not bad the effect is very good and priest just revealed 2 cards so mb there r more synergy with this card there are more synergy in wild also.
You have to draw this first and then those cards in a class with almost no draw power. The buffed minions will probably come out one at a time, slow enough that any control deck worth its salt can deal with them relatively efficiently.
This can be thrown into any priest deck and do something beneficial, but you will often draw at least some of the big cards you want to buff with this card before you can play it. Hard Mulliganing for a 6 mana card in a deck that would probably have at least 5 other high cost minions leaves you almost completely open to aggressive and midrange decks up until turn 6. It’s the same issue with Big Priest.
I think this card can be much more powerful than Keleseth. One is that this doesn’t techically cause you to have anything in your deck in order to activate. Also a +1+1 buff isn’t better than say +3 attack. Sure it comes out later, but that’s why it’s better in a big minion control priest rather than an aggro priest
To Ab00000
Yes. The buff this provides can be more powerful, but it comes out at the very earliest 4 turns after Keleseth can. The value created by this card does not allow your minions to live longer either, and in a Big Minion Control Priest, drawing your Ysera, Obsidian Statues, Sleepy Dragons, or whatever else you’d play in that deck before you play this would be devastating. Even after you play it, you might not draw them.
If this card were in Warlock or Rogue, classes with ample amounts of card draw, it would be a format warping nightmare, but in a class that favors semi-random card generation over pure card draw, it might be a general include like Ragnoros or Sylvanas was in all midrange and control decks, but it won’t be something you build decks around.
The theme music for this expansion: “The sound of Silence”
Gawd, we’ll all be running craploads of silence.
Sigh.
Okay so let’s see the upsides
Buffs the plethora of minions that have low attack but high health, like Doomsayer, Lightwell, Ysera, Sleepy Dragon, Book Wyrm, etc. Even something like Northshire Cleric or Netherspite Historians that you haven’t drawn yet. Or Drakonid Operative buff to a 6/6 so it can kill mirrors or itself or just make it more valuable.
Downsides: So you might have an important buff card in hand before you draw her or you run Midnight Drake instead of Twilight Drake. Nothing bad. Look at the damn card, literally 9.5/10.
If Priest had any draw power that extended past Cleric and PW: Shield or this affected the minions in your hand too, I would be inclined to agree with you, but it doesn’t. This card suffers from the same problem Barnabus, the Druid quest reward. It’s nice to have these high value buffs applied to the minions in my deck, but I have to draw them first.
You don’t have to build a deck around it, but it isn’t something you can rely on to win you games.
I didn’t say it was something to rely on, but a powerful side card in any Priest deck. If Dragon Priest exists it’ll be a powerful card run in it, but not a win condition. It’s very powerful for it’s effect, and it’ll work like Kazakus in Reno Mage. Powerful, but not game winning and if you lose it somehow it’s still okay.
Yes. You probably will throw it into any Priest deck that has the room for it, but if you were to build your deck around it by adding sub-par cards like Lightwell and Sleepy Dragon, you would be relying on it to at least some extent.
I’ll leave it off as…. think of Lady in White the same way you’d think of Kazakus.
OK, THIS is the kind of legendaries we want to see. Powerful and with a WOW effect, preferably one which makes you think on how to build your deck. Rating it 5 out of 5 stars. I don’t think it will shake the meta, but it will bring interesting decks to the fray I believe.
This isn’t at all the kind of card that a lot of us want to see.
Well, Priest legendary cards have been rather hit or miss. This is probably going to be a hit, but it won’t be format warping like Shadowreaper Anduin was.
You prefer the Warrior or Rogue legendaries, I believe?
2 days to early blizzard, 1st of april is sunday.. fools
So we can all agree that this card is a little to strong. I guess we are going to see a ton of Priest, Warlocks, Druid, and potential Shaman. This new meta seems a tiny bit one sided. This new card seems really neat all in all.
This is hardly too strong existing in a class with only two forms of card draw outside of the neutral card draw like Gnomish Inventor.
Why would we see Druid or Shaman given what we know about the set thus far? Nothing shown so far is so amazing they have to become top competitive classes, and both classes will be losing quite a few really good cards. Hagatha may be a good card, but we need to see the rest of the Shaman line-up to say either way.
Two words. Dragon. Priest. Even not in Wild, it’s still fucking bonkers.
Dragon Priest in Standard seems dim…I’d go as far as saying there cant be a Dragon Priest any more at least from the cards shown so far.
If Priest had late game draw power, I would agree with you, but it doesn’t. The cards buffed with Lady in White will usually end up coming out one at a time perhaps every other turn given how spell heavy Priest decks tend to be. There is Spiteful Summoner Priest, but most of the minions that currently plays have an equal amount of attack and health, so you won’t benifit too much from playing it in that as we currently know it.
omg guys CORRIDOR CREEPER IS BACK <3
THIS. This right here is why Raza was nerfed. Because Dragon Priest is about to take over Wild in a HUGE way with this.
Twilight Guardian? Wyrmrest Agent? Ysera? Sleepy Dragon?
I’m a hardcore Priest player. I was laddering with Priest during the Old Gods meta, when Priest was the laughing stock. I was playing a shitty meme Inspire Priest during the height of Pirate Warrior popularity. I just love the class that much.
And I have to say… dude, wtf. This card is insane. What the hell, Blizzard. Don’t release this card as is. You’re destroying my favourite class by making it TOO good.
You still have to draw the card, and even in Wild, priest doesn’t have that much draw. Any Wild control deck worth its salt should be able to deal with playing one rather big minion per turn. This is a good card, but it comes out way too late in a class that can then do something like Elvish Minstrel-Shadowstep-Elvish Minstrel to be game breaking..
I don’t see the connection to the Raza nerf!?
lol , in wild pure control decks are tier 15.Good luck waiting for this on turn 6 and value on turn 15 while you have 8/8 giants or a bunch of doomguards ravaging your face or combo druid simply not giving a f*** about how big your minions will be.
This is a mediocre card that will at best make a playable tier 3 deck.
Actually this makes your twilight drake a 1 attack minion
You may throw this into Priest decks just because you can most of the time, and it will create a lot of late game pressure on your opponent when you start throwing out 1 mana 3/3s or 3 mana 5/5s or even 9 mana 12/12s. However, I think it’s just too slow and exists in a class with only 2 forms of true card draw, Power Word: Shield and Northshire Cleric, so even after you play it, it’ll take forever to get the minions left in your deck to your hand and then onto the board.
Comparing this to Prince Keleseth is generally valid, and I think it comes up short in most aspects. Keleseth affects all minions in your deck positively all of the time, increases the health of minions along with attack, and can come out early and in some cases often, but has a restriction. It is also usually used in classes that have access to card draw like Rogue and Warlock for a good reason too. Otherwise the value created by the card is just sitting in your deck doing nothing for you.
This card is better than The Mistcaller since it does have better stats the boost can be a better especially with minions with a lot more health than attack, but this does hurt the Dragon Package, Twilight Acolyte and Twilight Drake in particular. Perhaps, you just wouldn’t use the two together in the same deck, but the card also doesn’t do a whole lot for current Spiteful Priest decks. Most minions in that deck would only gain +1 attack or nothing with the exception of Grand Archivist.
This is a well designed and high quality card with good enough stats, but it is not completely broken unless you’re building a deck filled with the minions mentioned in the card review. Even then, you have to draw this Legendary without the sort of draw found in Rogue and Warlock, leaving you relatively open to faster decks. Perhaps this will create a sort of Taunt Priest that maybe includes the quest to help against aggro or something.
This and Psychic Scream, gg, wp blizzard, EZ
#priest #1 #kappa
DUR HUR HUR I’M BLIZZARD I’M GOING TO MAKE A FREAKING GUN TURRET A LEGENDARY- AND MAKE IT COST WAY TOO MUCH AND GIVE IT BAD STATS FOR THE TURN IT COMES OUT, AND GIVE IT TO A CLASS THAT’S STRUGGLING IN THE META… HERE’S ONE, WARRIOR. NOW, LET’S SEE, LET’S GIVE AN UNCONDITIONAL BUFF OF ALL MINIONS IN YOUR DECK TO A CLASS THAT ISN’T STRUGGLING… HMMM… PRIEST.
Dude preist has sucked until last year calm down lol
– Day one priest player
This. Priest was my main when i started playing and it only got good with the DK. Everyone forgets that Face Hunter, aggro Shaman, Pirate and Patron Warrior and the list goes on, used to be top Tier. That’s the nature of any competitive game really, theres a cycle of whats “best”.
That being said, i wanted control warrior back or control hunter to exist, but sometimes, life isnt fair.
What does the past have to do with anything?
HS’s goal shoulda
obsidian op statue.
lightwell ?? 2 mana 5 5
12 12 ysera and sleepy dragon.nice card i love it
if paladin gets rebuke ofc priest need to have this card .
Step 1:draw lady in white
Step 2:buff some minions
Step 3:draw that minions
Step 4:have that minions alive
Step 5:kill your opponent with that minions or lose cause you cannot waste slots with another cards and if you use lady in white in another priest decks it would be useless so not makes sense put it in a dragon priest for example
If blizzard dont give more minions with big health it would be very weak,anyway good Lucky!
This card is 6 mana 5/5 body that does wonders all around your deck.. Funny how priest and Warlock are getting cards like these but Hunter & Warrior which are both struggling get garbage legendaries… 😀
so true
While I agree with your assessment about Priest and Warlock, I’m baffled by that last part. Yes, Warrior’s got it hard. Poor baby. A class that’s always had anywhere between one to three top tier decks since BRM. Warrior can sit on the bottom for a little bit. But… Spell Hunter is a tier one deck. Not three. Not two. One. Barnes might be rotating out soon, but Spell Hunter is one of the strongest decks currently out there. It’s mostly high roll shenanigans, but the meta deck rankings don’t lie.
Except you said why it’s doing well. Spell hunter is losing barnes and yshaarj meaning it isn’t going to potentially auto win match ups it SHOULDN’T win on turn 3 or turn 4 (warlock). Also you are losing Cat Trick which is one of the only actually playable secrets outside of wandering monster so unless we get a replacement (we won’t considering they want you to control the board with minions this expansion) you are going to have to run the likes of freezing trap…..in a meta most likely still having dude paladins in it.
If Lady in white works with resurrect and recruit mechanics get ready to see some 7-8 turn 12-12 sleepy dragons and yshera or 8-8 obs statue. Thats a joke. Giving more to priests paladins and warlocks when all the other classes gets some meme – trash rng cards.
But thats not all.
4 mana 6/6 tortolan, 4mana 5/5 auchenai, 3mana 7/3 injured blademaster, 3mana 5/5 tar creeper (8/5 on opponents turn), 4mana 5/5 stormwind knight and 5mana 8/8 muck hunter.
Even a 2 mana 5/5 lightwell and 1mana 3/3 cleric is isnane.
If a turn 5 raza had a very high winrate prenerf imagine a turn 6 lady in white.
I don’t believe it will work with resurrect mechanics. It just applies a buff to each minion, and minions resurrect in their basic form, without any buffs.
I’m assuming that Silence will also work to bring the minions down to their normal attack.
100% silence would work, i think we are going to see alot more silence cards this next meta which isnt a bad thing
(To kabani) As usual, Resurrect mechanics do not re cast buffs. (And you’re spot on, Stonekeep.)
is not as good as it seems, very interesting card
This is a great card; but it’s not quite 5 stars. It has negative synergy with combo decks as it is hard to draw a single legendary out of your deck… without drawing cards
Still, there are some really good choices to put this in, most likely a wild dragon priest variant
Here’s a small list (incomplete) of some viable combo’s:
Lightwell (+5)
Doomsayer (+7)
Tortollan Shellraiser (+4)
Obsidian Statue (+4)
Tar Creeper (+4)
Ancient of Blossoms (+5)
Hungry Ettin (+6)
Sleepy Dragon / Malygos / Ysera (+8)
Injured Blademaster (+3)
Gurubashi Berserker (+5)
Meat Wagon (+3)
Acolyte of Pain (+2)
Lorewalker Cho (+4)
Nat Pagle (+4)
Stonehill Defender (+3)
Wild:
Priest of the feast (+3)
Bolf Ramshield (+6)
Summoning Stone (+6)
Maexxna (+6)
Scaled Nightmare (+6)
Hooded Acolyte (+3)
Tournament Medic (+7)
Twilight Guardian (+4)
Deathlord (+6)
Egg (Nerubian, Dragon, Devilsaur) (+2/+3)
Netherspite Historian (+2)
Wyrmrest Agent (+3)
Can’t wait for the priest shitstorm this is going to provoke. Equality anyone?
I thoat combo priest is anoying. But now I feel crushed.
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The warrior legendary is a worse axe flinger and the priest legendary is a 6 mana keleseth inner fire? Seems like Blizzard alright…
LiW + Glitter Moth?
Liw is 6 mana. Doesn’t work with moth.
But why? The minions are buffed IN YOUR DECK, which means that e.g. Stonehill Defender lands as a 4/4 on the board.
Using Moth wouldn’t make it an 8/8.
Those two have no synergy, not to mention that Lady in White is even and Glitter Moth requires only-Odd deck.
Stupid highroll card if you get it on turn 6 it’s broken if you don’t then you lose because the deck in wich you put this card is bad
Apples and oranges.
Rogue needed highroll and never played control.
Priest plays control to wait for the highroll.
It’s in fact a much smarter highroll.
Waaay too broken..
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Hardly. Unless you’re doing nothing by playing high health, low cost minions in a deck that somehow always gets this card to your hand by turn 6, relying on this thing as your win condition won’t usually end well.
This is a good card, but new decks built around it will need to be built to get the full value out of it since the Dragon Package, which may be losing relevance anyway, will be hurt by using this card (Twilight Acolyte and Twilight Drake in particular) and most minions in Spiteful Priest will only gain +1 attack or nothing.
Thats what i call good card guys! ??? really strong effect but of u need to build deck around it. 5 stars no doubt. And best legendary in this set yet revealed.
Second that.
Is this legendary good? I mean, you need to draw it early for it to have any effect in the game. I feel like it’s a high roll card. Depends too much on the draw RNG.
Think about Keleseth. Now, look this card. A stronger Keleseth with no restriction
Yes, but the main strenght of Keleseth was if you played it on turn 2 or 3, then you would have had the time to develop many of the card you drew. Here the first card that would benefit from LiW is drawn on turn 7 (assuming it is a minion and you played LiW on turn 6). It is a very good card, but it might be too slow to actually be that broken IMO. I guess it will really depend on what type of meta we’re going to face, but aggro decks always tend to survive so…
Not necessarily. Keleseth can come out at the very beginning of the game and will always affect minions in a positive matter. This can create 4 mana 7/7s with taunt, but you can’t play it on turn 4 since this come out too late for that, and it turns offensively statted minions into pure garbage. Usually, you’ll also only get +1 or +2 attack on most of your minions is you specifically play nothing but defensive minions. That can be good, but Priest as a class likes semi-random card generation over pure card draw at the moment.
So, with Keleseth Rogue or Zoolock, you can play it out on turn 2, and then use either the card draw provided by cards like Elvin Mistral, Kobold Librarian, Warlock’s hero power, and so on to quickly get the extra value created by Keleseth and progressively whittle away at the enemy Hero while maintaining control of the board.
You just can’t do that with Lady in White in Priest.
If you build a deck around it, yes. But the card itself fits in basically every Priest archetype, and you don’t have to change anything for it. Take Dragon Priest: Northshire Cleric, Primordial Drake, Stonehill Defender, and many more cards benefit from the effect!
At least in Standard after this card enters the format, it will probably do more harm to the dragon package than good. The effectiveness of Twilight Acolyte and Twilight drake will be crushed by using this card. I don’t think the two will be too compatible outside of Wild.
And I think that out of the 2/3 of cards that still miss we will see enough minions with low attack and high health that make this card a great include, Dragon Priest or not!
Yeah. You can throw it into any Priest deck because you can, but it shouldn’t be relied on and that deck will probably be able to win without it.
It’s a good card, but its inclusion won’t make or break a deck.
I found the card that I’m going to be using my dust on (as a free player).
too slow for me
12/12 Ysera wow
or tar creeper
This card is too good. It makes cards like Stonehill and Priest of the Feasts so strong.
Its like unconditional stronger keleseth, priest will be impossible to outvalue after they play this.
Not necessarily. Their minions will only be able to take the same amount of damage they could before they played it. They could have 2, 3, 4, or even 5 or more stats than they did before, but the value it creates comes out slowly enough that most other control deck should be able to handle it well enough. Cubelock definitely will at least.
cubelock will handle priest :DDDDDDDDD nice joke cubelock nighmate is priest actully cuz silences and mind control and many things they can steal in deck and board and good removals .
i use to farm cubelock with summoner priest or raza priest or big priest i always like warlock matchup with any kind of priest deck .ez farm
That is true right now. However, all three Priest archetypes Cube Warlock has an unfavorable match-up against, Combo (44% win rate), Spiteful (47%), and Big (48%) will be losing critical cards for their deck as we know them now. The win rate of Cubelock is also not so low as to discount the possibility of a Warlock win unless the Priest is teched out for that particular match-up as it is.
Combo loses some of the best parts of the dragon Package, Talonpriest, and Potion of Madness, making it more difficult to pull off the combo early on before they start spitting out Voidlords
Spiteful also loses that same dragon package and Talonpriest, but also loses Kabal Songstealer, the deck’s preferred silence card.
Big loses Barns, Y’Sharrj, a ton of early game AOE removal, Potion of Madness, and Greater Healing Potion.
The only cards Cubelock really loses are Mistress of Mixtures, which could be replaced by armored beetle or something, and N’Zoth, which not every Cube Warlock deck ran and can win without in non-control mirrors. Priest will be in a much worse shape after the rotation than Warlock will be.
Going into the long game with a Control Warlock is usually a bad idea, and only Big Priest is able to do so consistently even if they were prone to getting killed by early game Cubes and Doomgaurds or a poor opening hand. Even summoning Lich King or Ysera instead of Statue or Y’Shaarj early on could be enough to get them killed in that match-up. Spiteful Priest can do it, but half of the reason why is Drakonid Operative stealing a copy of Bloodreaver Gul’dan to revive the Voidlord(s) they took with Mind Control, another Operative, or Glimeroot.
Yeah, no. Properly run Big Priest decks slaughter cubelock.
You were playing noobs who resurrect their obsidian statues.
Holy what? that’s insane, can’t wait the combos people come up with
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