Face Collector
Face Collector is a 3 Mana Cost Legendary Rogue Minion card from the The Witchwood set!
Card Text
Echo Battlecry: Add a random Legendary minion to your hand.
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“I’ll trade you a Malfurion for an Anduin.”Face Collector Card Review
At this point I think that Blizzard is making fun of Rogue players. And I don’t mean that the card itself is bad. It’s just yet another card that could actually be powerful in another class, but not in Rogue. No viable Rogue deck in history wanted to play cards that are super low tempo and give you more value. Rogue was always about the tempo or combo tactics. About efficient minions/removals (tempo strategy) and cycling through the deck (combo strategy). This is a strictly value card.
But, digressing from the Rogue class for a moment, what value card it is. The best part about it (and well, about any other Echo card too, I guess) is that it’s super flexible. You can play it on Turn 3 as 2/2 that draws you a card. Which is obviously not great, but at least it gives you a body on the board, which can sometimes be useful vs faster decks. And vs slower decks, you could keep it for the late game and get three random Legendaries out of nowhere.
It gets even better if you combine it with Shadowstep. For example, you can play it three times then Shadowstep one of the copies. While you’re left with only two on the board, next turn you can play it FOUR times. How crazy it is? You spend two cards and end up with a bunch of small minions on the board and a hand full of Legendaries. That’s really cool. If you play a slow deck vs a slow deck, those few extra Legendaries really do matter and can give you an edge in the long terms value war.
One more thing worth mentioning is how random this effect is. When reading “Legendary” you immediately think of powerful stuff, like The Lich King or Alexstrasza, or maybe Archmage Antonidas. But the truth is that there is a bunch of weak / useless Legendaries. You have just as high chance to get, I don’t know, Ozruk (without Elementals in your deck), Dragoncaller Alanna (without many, or any high cost spells in your deck), Lynessa Sunsorrow, Millhouse Manastorm etc. You get my point. Random Legendary sounds great on paper, but it’s not always good. It has a chance to draw you a bunch of useless/situational cards that will stay dead in your hand. We got so used to Discover mechanic that we sometimes don’t consider how random the “truly” random effects might be.
So, as much as I like it and I’ll probably play it in some meme deck if I open it, I don’t think it’s going to be good enough in the context of its class. Control Rogue is not a thing. Rogue cards just don’t support this kind of strategy. The only way for this to really see serious play is if Blizzard goes balls to the wall and decides to print a full expansion (or two.. or three..) of powerful Control Rogue tools. But so far, Control cards for Rogue were mostly outliers – because that’s just not the class identity.
Card rating: 3/10
Face Collector Full Card Art
There better be another good rogue legend, please blizzard? I like rogue 🙁
I just think its a bit dumb just saying its a bad card… it becomes a good card on quest rogue??? cheat death? if u have a shadow step, ques is easily compleated on turn 5, sure youll probably wont get good legends, but even the crapiest ones become 5/5
For now,its the Single legendary i really didnt liked and think “wow,that’s both so fucking cool and nice legendary!!!” and “thats so slow and just give you a random effect that is not that special” but a strong effect that card can have is that it regenerate your hand and your board at same time if you spend everything with some combos,rogue already have enough tempo cards but is kinda poor to regenerate,we have only auctioner and maybe prep+draw four cards spell but you need two or more specific cards to done that…well,I would like something better to a rogue but the card really help you in a thing that rogue are needing atleast!
Can we have a moment of silence to all the poor bastards who will get this as their class legendary on day 1.
I’m not mad because I think the card is fun even if it’s bad I want the card anyways XD.
I just want all the rogue cards so yeah i would be pretty happy.
Can’t wait to see streamers get Face Collector after Face Collector after Face Collector
Imagine you have the Hunter legendary to get Rush then play face collector twice plus Sonya to get 2 1 cost face collectors to put them out again with rush. Infinite value.
You can’t get duplicate legendaries anymore…or do you mean summon?
Arya Stark is the only Face Collector
Well, dunno about constructed, but in Arena I could definitely see myself picking this Legendary. Ultra-high value cards are generally incredible there.
This is just a worse kabal courier. Kabal courier is better because you’re able to discover a card that you can choose to help you, even if its not legendary. Half the time, face collector will give you garbage
I partially agree, kabal currently is stronger due to the fact it can get good spells but it’s rotating out I believe. But the biggest differences is that this can be played multiple times instead. And possibly get legendaries from other class?
Its a extra resource to replace your hand and you board at same time,with a single card,rogue already have so much tempo cards but it need something like that too
Also kabal courier wasn’t playable in rogue unless you stole it, because only mage, Warlock, and priest could p lay it. So this card isn’t comparable, and could be decent, but probably sucks. Just being a stickler, sorry.
its ok , dont know if its competitive tho’
Im probably wrong, but, imho, this might be interesting to give the burst a rogue deck needs on turn 6 or 7.
What is happening on turn 6 ? There are infinite possibilities, but with this card and a shadowstep in your hand you can play this guys twice, and shadowstep one of the copies back to your hand. You ended your turn with a 2/2 on the board and 3 legendaries in your hand, one is face collector of course. Theres a high chance that at least one of the legendaries is a good one, and you might play it on turn 7. On turn 8 you might play the face collector twice, or do something else and save it to turn 9, when you play it 3 times…you have between 2 and 5 legendaries in your hand… Or… after turn 6, you just play the legendaries you got and the rest of the cards from your deck and never play face collector again…
Even if you dont have shadowstep and play face collector twice on turn 6, you will have 2 legendaries in your hand and two 2/2 minions on the board that your oponent will do everything to kill asap, before you return either of them to your hand, so your oponent wil not have a free turn, he/she will focus your face collectors on the board…
With shadowstep, you can play it twice on turn 4… two 2/2 on board and 2 legendaries in your hand…
This echo mechanic is versatile and this card can be used from turn 3 to 10…
I kinda like it…
This would be nice in a world where murlocs are not bashing your face in by turn 5.
Nahhh…why the hell everybody when look at a legendary,always think in a combo that will just give you unseless valor,or just think in a predictable face damage combo with thousand cards Just to done,when you can just use these legendarys alone to help you in a lot of possibilities and games? Face colector for example,is a guy that can be used in “midrange deck rogues” with a lot of tempo cards,but poor in cards that regenerate your hand,in atleast one in six games you will have topdecking it and gain a big advantage…it dont need comb with another cards to done a “””Powerfull””” combo to be good!!
I can see echo cards bringing back quest rouge. Maybe not this one, but maybe in a meme version
One reasonably costed Echo (like this fellow) plus 1xShadow Step equals quest complete in the late game. It could make the quest a secondary win condition that you wouldn’t have to plan the entire deck strategy around to get working. Just a thought.
It doesn’t really make sense, though. Quest turns all your minions into 5/5. If you have a deck focused on the late game, then turning your late game minions into 5/5’s wouldn’t be an advantage..
You also don’t consider the fact that running a Quest is a huge disadvantage – you start each game with one card less. That’s why you NEED to plan your entire strategy around the quest. If you don’t, there is no point putting yourself in that kind of significant disadvantage in the first place.
3 mana Echo cards are just bad in Quest Rogue, no matter how you look at it. 1 mana surely would be broken. 2 mana – probably good, but not broken.
2 mana would be busted too depending on the card’s effect like this one
Mm… yeah, I think you’re right. A 1-drop Echo would be broken, and 2-drop could be viable, but the overall deck strategy would still need to center on the quest.
Maybe Run Tempo with keleseth but don’t run the youthful brew masters so you can either shadow step keleseth and get the early game or go on with the quest and get the late game.
A good quest rogue deck will have the quest completed turn 4-7 or so. There should be no late game
Cant wait to see some crazy meme games where someone gets like 3 King Krush and wins 😛
Terrible cards overall
This is bs. Why can’t rogue just get a strong legendary. Every time it’s some under-statted card with some sort of random effect.
Hi im agreed with you but some cards are only for fun like this and it MAYBE good with youthfull brewmaster and shadow step wich can be good for aggro in over midrenge game
Honestly i still hope other rogue card be better we rogue players will breakthrough again no doubt !
Problem is that rogue’s basic class cards are so powerful, meaning there’s less room for better cards in expansions.
Rogue have so many good tempo cards but is very poor in cards that regenerate your hand,atleast one in six games It will really save you what is very power/usefull…and i dont know why so much players always think in useless combos or just complain when look at a legendary that is difficult spot It potential,is like their forget their favorite class have quest rogue,kingsbane,sherazin,valeera the hollow,and priest,the class that everybody say is so op also have their “still have potential but just cause It dont enter in meta decks i will call it garbage” legendaries,like dragonsoul,awaken the makers,Benedictus,TEMPORUS,and even andwin and velen nowadays,just cause raza get nerfed…
This should have been in Hunter.
Then we could make Face Hunter without calling that.
So basically this is a 3 Mana 2/2:
Draw 2 cards, of which 1 is the same card as played (and can only be played this turn) and 1 is a random legendary.
Considering that “Draw a card.” is usually 1 – 1.5 Mana, but these cards aren’t random, I’d say it’s decently statted, but not unfair enough to actually see play, since the randomness of the legendary diminishes the draw value, as well as the fact, that the copy of this card that you get is only temporary.
This card ALONE can replace your hand and board,what is a thing rogue really needs in a tempo deck for example,if you get in topdecking condition in 1 each 3 games,and in half of these games you have the face colector in hand to save you,it can be already considered usefull
I’m pretty sure you’ll see this guy in every rogue list. Its just to flexible and potentially game changing.
And no – you cant draw Patches – because he is rotating…
Here’s you new toy. It goes into your closet and brings out your old toys.
Doesn’t work with the start of game mechanics either, “new toys”.
I get it. Now you have a ysera or a lich Kings..
Just my obligatory insight into another Rogue Legendary; don’t mind me. Also, abbreviated Face Collector as FC for most of it because I’m lazy.
If nothing else, this is a guaranteed Quest completion turn 7 with a Shadowstep (T6 2x FC > Shadowstep, T7 3x FC, watching your hand size so as to not Mill Quest). Now, why exactly you’d WANT a Quest completion after getting a hand of Legendaries is beyond me (unless you get a hand of Nat Pagles), but hey! It’s cool 😀
Control Rogue is nowhere near an actual thing, so I’d say no, don’t use this for that, especially when you’re losing Tempo with a 3-mana 2/2. I mean, if Rogue gets a few cool board clears and such then sure, but as it stands… no.
Aggro w/ FC is… interesting… If you run Shadowstep, it can be a refill after dumping your hand; meanwhile, your hand’ll probably be nearing empty by T6 – the focal point of the FC/Shadowstep Combo. So I mean you could just run an extremely aggressive Rogue while hard-mulligan’ing for FC and Shadowstep (kinda like Keleseth O.o)… Wait… Let’s try something…
Tempo Rogue with Keleseth and Face Collector. You hard-mulligan for Keleseth and/or Face Collector, while also trying to find Shadowstep to complement either one. Either you draw Keleseth and win the Tempo War by Shadowstepping him, or you instead draw Face Collector and refill your almost-empty hand by turn 6. Either way, Shadowstep has some use in assuring a victory, and you have a plan B should you fail to draw Keleseth early… Interesting…
And as for other Rogue Archetypes… Just no. At least not Standard ones. Miracle has NO use with FC, Mill, besides having no use for FC, is dead with the rotation of Coldlight, and Kingsbane has basically no use unless you get… Idunno, Cpt Greenskin from it or something.
I think that control rogue isn’t that far off from “viable”. I’ve had a positive win rate with a slow jade rogue deck aimed at prolonging the game and spamming jades during the K&C expansion so far, it’s not as consistently good as the top competitive meta decks but it has the tools to win those matchups. They’re losing jades next expansion, but that deck would just need high value cards to replace the jades and this new rogue legendary is a decent start; it even fits right in with shadowstep/zola/sonya/vanish and all that to properly milk this card for value.
Rogue will probably need some more than this in the next expansion, but people are talking about needing 2-3 expansions of dedicated control rogue cards to make control rogue even work, and that’s just crazy. This card serves as an alternate win condition that can make use of cards that would probably be in hand, sort of like Edwin Vancleef but much more value with the expectation of a long game, which you can produce the healing/removal for with a little creativity.
Love the effect, could lead to some pretty RNG intense games. Not sure how Rogue will fit this in, but I’m sure people will somehow find a way
I can’t believe people calling this a bad card. It’s a Battlecry, so rogues can take additional value out of there. Playing this on 4 mana with shadow step is very good.
Playing it for 7 mana with shadow step is also great and sets up a threatening late game. Well on turn 10 – yea think about that.
I mean Ancient of Lore was fantastic – 7 mana 5/5 draw 2. This card is super flexible and good on his own.
Easy 5/5 – Echo rogue incoming
So you use a full turn to draw a bunch of legendary while your opponent is playing threats on board/burning you face. And you have no healing or board clears so you can’t come back no matter how many legendaries you have in hand. Rogue can’t come back from behing. It’s ote a warlock. you can’t plauy the value game and be slow. Rogue has to be fast to be good. Going face, being threatening. Value cards are not fit to rogue.
It’s because there are bunch of shit legendaries in the game imagine you get kelesth or patches or whatever trash is out there. Ofc this card would have been insane if it wasn’t for that insane amount of bad legendaries but if Blizz didn’t knew this they wouldn’t have printed this card.
But it might good arena card altrought still insanely RNG dependent.
Keleseth and pathces are relatively reasonable ones to get. Without their effects they are free cards you get to slap on board for somewhat acceptable stats to cost ratio. Cards like Finja, Alanna and Ozruk and the Hadronox are the real trash and god help the poor sod that gets lynessa
The funny thing about lynessa is that if the rogue played shadowstep that game. Lynessa will allways cast shadowstep on herself. So you can never get her out of your hand, unlesh the openent plays dirty rat. (to bad dirty rat rotates out)
I like this card, it’s unfortunate that Rogue isn’t a control class 🙁
Awfull card. Just unplayable in competitive decks.
Rogue deserve better
It appears to me to be worse malchezar its a small body that produces legendaries that either cost to much or are just useless
Malchezar dilutted your deck with random minions. Having them on your hand at least is better. But it is still too unreliable.
The problem with Malchezaar is that he dilutes your deck and takes up a few draws, while FC “draws” you cards when played. As a result, FC has a smaller body to compensate.
Its a fun card.
But it is 3 mana 2/2 which is terrible in the current meta with a battlecry that is a gamble.
Id say 3/3 would be better statline for a legendary.. I wouldn’t risk getting situational cards like like Benedictus, Cho or Harrison Jones for practically wasting 3 mana.
2/5
This card has insane value! However Rogue seems the worst class for this card in Constructed. Arena though… Rating it 3.5 out of 5 stars.
Would have been good in another class like priest , mage , warlock or anything. But rogue can’t use this legendary. It’s a very slow card who can provide an insane value. But rogue can’t be slow because he has no defensive tools. You won’t do the quest with this card 3 mana is too much and the 2/4 with taunt looks better in quest because it has taunt.
I disagree. this is a gr8 card and it isnt too slow. But i do agree on one thing, rogue needs more board clears!!!! its the only class without any board clears. even hunter has explosive shot.
Wild Pyromancer + Plague Scientist and a spell (razorpetal, coin, shadowstep etc.) clears the entire board.
It’s actually quite decent, especially against naga giants decks in wild.
That’s a three card play. Priest does that with two. Warlock/Mage with one.
Rogue is too far behind by then in the current meta. Or the previous, like, dozen.